Can we take legal action against the EFL?

[IslandExile]

Everyone knows that the EFL are not fit for purpose but I am sure we cannot bring a case against them purely for incompetence.

We are all talking about legal cases to rid ourselves of the claims by Boro and WW but can we go on the offensive against the EFL?

Please can the experts on here give their opinions on whether there is a legal case against the EFL for:

• Not adequately monitoring their own FFP rules
• Not adhering to the ruling of their own appointed independent panel
• Not allowing an amortisation policy, allowed in law, and that isn't (wasn't) against their own rules
• Not applying their penalties (points deduction) at the appropriate time - leading to the Wycombe claim
• By ruling that unresolved claims should be treated as debts delaying the legal process of finding a buyer to exit administration
• By applying rules that, by their own admission, have not even been published
• Being the body responsible for governing the leagues but then allowing clubs to take actions against one another

The cost of this is the possible liquidation of a founder member of the Leagues they are meant to represent. In addition, the club's status as a Championship club is threatened by their penalties, points deductions, transfer embargoes, delayed takeovers. Many employees of the club have lost their jobs. Local businesses have not had their debts repaid. And the club have been forced to sell players, including promising youngsters that were the future of the club. More players will be lost because the club is unable to re-sign them.

[RoyMac5]

You've just asked the question I was wondering.

What did they base their 'football debts' ruling on? Surely they should quote the Rules that are applicable in our case? Then we could contest their decision?

[IslandExile]

Just now, RoyMac5 said:

You've just asked the question I was wondering.

What did they base their 'football debts' ruling on? Surely they should quote the Rules that are applicable in our case? Then we could contest their decision?

I said on the Administration thread: how can an unresolved claim be classed as a debt?

'Football debt' or otherwise - it's just not a debt until it is resolved in their favour. We do not even know how much it will amount to - hopefully nothing. Even the payday loan sharks tell you how much you owe them. How is it a debt???

[RoyMac5]

18 minutes ago, IslandExile said:

I said on the Administration thread: how can an unresolved claim be classed as a debt?

'Football debt' or otherwise - it's just not a debt until it is resolved in their favour. We do not even know how much it will amount to - hopefully nothing. Even the payday loan sharks tell you how much you owe them. How is it a debt???

I guess then the EFL would back pedal and say they are just re-iterating what their Rules say, that if a debt it's a football debt? They haven't made a judgement on the case just on the 'what if'?

It's difficult to tell really as their statement is deliberately obtuse. They're a bunch of mealy-mouthed bankers. I'd like to see some names signed to these statements!

I guess what we would have to do is take some sort of 'action' that meant if we 'dealt' with Boro and Wycombe using the Law that the EFL wouldn't take away our Golden Ticket by saying 'that's against our Rules', which is what they're threatening now?

Edited February 4, 2022 by RoyMac5

[Gritstone Ram]

23 minutes ago, IslandExile said:

Everyone knows that the EFL are not fit for purpose but I am sure we cannot bring a case against them purely for incompetence.

We are all talking about legal cases to rid ourselves of the claims by Boro and WW but can we go on the offensive against the EFL?

Please can the experts on here give their opinions on whether there is a legal case against the EFL for:

• Not adequately monitoring their own FFP rules
• Not adhering to the ruling of their own appointed independent panel
• Not allowing an amortisation policy, allowed in law, and that isn't (wasn't) against their own rules
• Not applying their penalties (points deduction) at the appropriate time - leading to the Wycombe claim
• By ruling that unresolved claims should be treated as debts delaying the legal process of finding a buyer to exit administration
• By applying rules that, by their own admission, have not even been published
• Being the body responsible for governing the leagues but then allowing clubs to take actions against one another

The cost of this is the possible liquidation of a founder member of the Leagues they are meant to represent. In addition, the club's status as a Championship club is threatened by their penalties, points deductions, transfer embargoes, delayed takeovers. Many employees of the club have lost their jobs. Local businesses have not had their debts repaid. And the club have been forced to sell players, including promising youngsters that were the future of the club. More players will be lost because the club is unable to re-sign them.

Have you written to them asking these questions? Put it together and send it to them for their response. 

[RoyMac5]

We need to get the Treasury involved, via local MPs. Pressure needs to be put on the EFL to ensure we don't go into liquidation as then the Treasury gets next to nothing.

If our buyer has to pay more out then rather it was to HMRC than those chancers.

[Sparkle]

2 hours ago, RoyMac5 said:

We need to get the Treasury involved, via local MPs. Pressure needs to be put on the EFL to ensure we don't go into liquidation as then the Treasury gets next to nothing.

If our buyer has to pay more out then rather it was to HMRC than those chancers.

When bidders keep seeing the things they want to buy disappear - young players with potential - they will adjust their bids much lower I suspect which will leave us with a buyer who has no CVA and we may also be thrown out of the league which would stop all but a token purchase.