SKRam Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 3 hours ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: I have a feeling he will end up at stoke. Where? Tell me of this St Sto ahhhh you mean Snake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Why do people want Vydra out. He is a brilliant striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 10 minutes ago, Newleaf said: Why do people want Vydra out. He is a brilliant striker. There are concerns about where he's going to fit into Lampard's system and encouraging style of play, fans aren't convinced we can get the best out of him without it being detrimental to the rest of the team, he would be an expensive luxury to sit on the bench playing 10 minute cameos, and his stock is high right now so it makes sense to cash in and make a profit on him. There are 243 pages on this. Do you not read other people's posts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thederbyram Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 19 minutes ago, Newleaf said: Why do people want Vydra out. He is a brilliant striker. May I refer you to my post below 11 hours ago, thederbyram said: Okay so I'm wide awake when I should be asleep. So I thought I'd make a little graph to bring together the circular debate of the past 239 pages. Feel free to place yourself within categories A, B, C or D. It'd probably save us another 2400 replies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 People talk carp about Vydra. He is a goal scorer for goodness sake. Forget systems and formations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam the Ram Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Newleaf said: People talk carp about Vydra. He is a goal scorer for goodness sake. Forget systems and formations. I wish it was that simple. I love Vydra, but it just seems the perfect time to sell in my eyes. Where would you play him in this 4-3-3 Frank has us in? Out wide or as the lone striker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RamsPolls Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Just now, Newleaf said: People talk carp about Vydra. He is a goal scorer for goodness sake. Forget systems and formations. Prime example of how our fan base is deluded... Vydra isn't a goalscorer unless he's played in the correct system. Pearson's era is the perfect showing of this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Newleaf said: People talk carp about Vydra. He is a goal scorer for goodness sake. Forget systems and formations. He only scored 3 goals in 31 league games for an attacking Reading side, the same side where Nick Blackman looked like a world beater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Just now, Cam the Ram said: I wish it was that simple. I love Vydra, but it just seems the perfect time to sell in my eyes. Where would you play him in this 4-3-3 Frank has us in? Out wide or as the lone striker? I’d have home floating around the 3. Lawrence and Wilson and him interchanging. People told me Lawrence was carp. I have always thought he was great. Franks team can be flexible as we have seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, RamsPolls said: Prime example of how our fan base is deluded... Vydra isn't a goalscorer unless he's played in the correct system. Pearson's era is the perfect showing of this... Deluded like the ones who thought Lawrence was carp. Ha ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamsPolls Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Just now, Newleaf said: Deluded like the ones who thought Lawrence was carp. Ha ha Not sure who you're gunning at with that comment. Fact is that Vydra can't play in specific systems. 4-3-3 is one of them. He needs a striking partner. He won't get that this season with us. Needs to be sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 1 minute ago, RamsPolls said: Not sure who you're gunning at with that comment. Fact is that Vydra can't play in specific systems. 4-3-3 is one of them. He needs a striking partner. He won't get that this season with us. Needs to be sold. Doesn’t end of. I’m off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamsPolls Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Just now, Newleaf said: Doesn’t end of. I’m off. On what basis can you say that? He's proven over his career that he needs a striking partner to be successful - Watford - Partner with Deeney - 36 Goals in 80 games West Brom - Sole striker - 3 goals in 23 games Reading - Sole Striker - 3 goals in 31 games Derby - Sole striker - 4 goals in a full season Derby - Partnered up with Nugent/Jerome - 21 goals in a full season. Point proven. *Drops mic* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam the Ram Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, Newleaf said: I’d have home floating around the 3. Lawrence and Wilson and him interchanging. People told me Lawrence was carp. I have always thought he was great. Franks team can be flexible as we have seen. I too have always rated Lawrence, but I'm not sure what relevance that has to Vydra staying or being sold? ? I think Nugent and Marriott would perform better in that role you suggested than Vydra. There's no doubt Vydra is the most talented of the 3 players, but he's struggled as a lone striker as we saw under Pearson. It's about getting the team right and what works best rather than shoehorning in the best players. Like Huddlestone, he's quite clearly a better footballer than Ledley, but for Frank's system having Ledley in there improves the team as a whole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab a dab doo Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Nearly 250 pages gone and his no closer to leaving I think we can take for read that he will NOT move until. a. We get what we think he is worth transfer fee wise. and b. Vyds and his agent don't get what they think he's worth wages and contract wise. Conclusion/Outcome stalemate. He's staying end of however wether he plays is a different matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 12 minutes ago, Cam the Ram said: I too have always rated Lawrence, but I'm not sure what relevance that has to Vydra staying or being sold? ? I think Nugent and Marriott would perform better in that role you suggested than Vydra. There's no doubt Vydra is the most talented of the 3 players, but he's struggled as a lone striker as we saw under Pearson. It's about getting the team right and what works best rather than shoehorning in the best players. Like Huddlestone, he's quite clearly a better footballer than Ledley, but for Frank's system having Ledley in there improves the team as a whole Nugent is too old IMO Hate we sell our player of the season every time. I will get over it. Happy days Up the Rams. PS No guarantees in Football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Gnarly Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 12 minutes ago, RamsPolls said: On what basis can you say that? He's proven over his career that he needs a striking partner to be successful - Watford - Partner with Deeney - 36 Goals in 80 games West Brom - Sole striker - 3 goals in 23 games Reading - Sole Striker - 3 goals in 31 games Derby - Sole striker - 4 goals in a full season Derby - Partnered up with Nugent/Jerome - 21 goals in a full season. Point proven. *Drops mic* I liked it when you weren't here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 18 minutes ago, Newleaf said: Doesn’t end of. I’m off. https://media.giphy.com/media/jDnjEDqnFH5PW/giphy.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, cosmic said: https://media.giphy.com/media/jDnjEDqnFH5PW/giphy.gif Bit like when Hughes was sold right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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