Jack Willow Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Just now, Paul71 said: Gary Bailey didn't play for us. James Bailey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 2 hours ago, lioncoeur said: James Bailey Really? OK thanks for the clarification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViewsFromTheMiddle Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Due to my pessimistic nature I'm sitting pretty in joint 3rd in the P.L table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontTrustTheDevilInside Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 On 29/08/2017 at 09:53, cheron85 said: Just checking - Do you actually go to the games? Or are you basing this off what you hear on the radio? I think you're phone in Derek... Every home game for the past 21 years (bar 1 or so a season) and average over 5 away games... sorry not phone in derek! On track for similar this season all home games and 1 away so far Been watching football for years, play it and coach as well... I've seen keogh since he signed and never felt remotely comfortable with keogh at the back with a 1 nil lead since he signed. Think there are better defenders in the squad (who don't do so many things for the simple fans to wow at) but do the more important things like defending a lot better with less plaudits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lrm14 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, DontTrustTheDevilInside said: Every home game for the past 21 years (bar 1 or so a season) and average over 5 away games... sorry not phone in derek! On track for similar this season all home games and 1 away so far Been watching football for years, play it and coach as well... I've seen keogh since he signed and never felt remotely comfortable with keogh at the back with a 1 nil lead since he signed. Think there are better defenders in the squad (who don't do so many things for the simple fans to wow at) but do the more important things like defending a lot better with less plaudits Curious who you mean by this, because Keogh has been by miles our best defender for the past couple of seasons. Curtis Davies has been completely shown up by him thus far and that's pretty telling to Keogh's ability considering how excellent Davies was for Hull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontTrustTheDevilInside Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 From where I've sat I think Pearce has had a really poor time with the Derby fans. Been made a scapegoat a lot. I disagree that Davies has been shown up and I really do believe the one player who would really get shown up is keogh if he went to another team where the fans don't give him the benefit of doubt. Have to say if the Russell own goal was mirrored the opposite side of the pitch the keogh fans would be quick to blame Davies that he should have commanded that area of the box and got it clear. Because Russell was to the right.... very quiet. Not defending Russell because it was bizarre. I admit I'm not a keogh fan and therefore I'm critical but honestly I advise you the next e.g 5 games watch keogh during the highlights of goals conceded. A lot of the time looks completely lost in no mans land with out a clue. And I like a lot of fans on here have seen afterwards he is the first person to do the most un-leader-like behaviour of pointing the finger of blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistaram Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, DontTrustTheDevilInside said: From where I've sat I think Pearce has had a really poor time with the Derby fans. Been made a scapegoat a lot. I disagree that Davies has been shown up and I really do believe the one player who would really get shown up is keogh if he went to another team where the fans don't give him the benefit of doubt. Have to say if the Russell own goal was mirrored the opposite side of the pitch the keogh fans would be quick to blame Davies that he should have commanded that area of the box and got it clear. Because Russell was to the right.... very quiet. Not defending Russell because it was bizarre. I admit I'm not a keogh fan and therefore I'm critical but honestly I advise you the next e.g 5 games watch keogh during the highlights of goals conceded. A lot of the time looks completely lost in no mans land with out a clue. And I like a lot of fans on here have seen afterwards he is the first person to do the most un-leader-like behaviour of pointing the finger of blame. For a start you wouldn't need to watch highlights if you actually went to the matches Its his job to point the finger of blame he's the captain Don't you think its funny how has managed to play 460 league games He has played 220 for Derby but maybe your a better judge than Clough McLaren Clements Pearson Rowett O'Neil who all picked him But I do agree about Pearce I think he's been poorly treated by the fans and I would have in ahead of Davies who to me has been a disappointment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaRam Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 34 minutes ago, Mistaram said: For a start you wouldn't need to watch highlights if you actually went to the matches Its his job to point the finger of blame he's the captain Don't you think its funny how has managed to play 460 league games He has played 220 for Derby but maybe your a better judge than Clough McLaren Clements Pearson Rowett O'Neil who all picked him But I do agree about Pearce I think he's been poorly treated by the fans and I would have in ahead of Davies who to me has been a disappointment The best CB in the world would look poor with Olson next to him. Always gets his CB exposed when he's too far up the pitch, or standing off his player far too much and never stopping a cross. He's not a bad player, just not a good defender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontTrustTheDevilInside Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Those two posts are my exact point... olson has equally got a very good reputation and has been selected by a number of managers of a similar level but no one uses that excuse to defend him. All these scapegoats don't join Derby and all of sudden become worst defenders. Yes all those managers have picked him but also none of the scouts Derby fans wish we had have scouted him and believe he's worth buying. @Mistaram can you even read... I see it at matches aswell because I go to a hell of a lot. You seem to know a lot about leadership haha... glad I don't have you as a leader. With your views on leadership and reading skills you aren't fit to lead a team at McDonald's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 11 hours ago, DontTrustTheDevilInside said: Every home game for the past 21 years (bar 1 or so a season) and average over 5 away games... sorry not phone in derek! On track for similar this season all home games and 1 away so far Been watching football for years, play it and coach as well... I've seen keogh since he signed and never felt remotely comfortable with keogh at the back with a 1 nil lead since he signed. Think there are better defenders in the squad (who don't do so many things for the simple fans to wow at) but do the more important things like defending a lot better with less plaudits you should write to the club, we need to get rid of these so called professionals who know jack 5hit about football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 13 hours ago, DontTrustTheDevilInside said: I've seen keogh since he signed and never felt remotely comfortable with keogh at the back with a 1 nil lead since he signed. Think there are better defenders in the squad (who don't do so many things for the simple fans to wow at) but do the more important things like defending a lot better with less plaudits I haven't checked the stats but I would put a small wager on Keogh having made less mistakes than our other defenders And Keogh has been fairly unpopular with fans for the last few years! It's only really been this season where people have said "Hey, maybe he's not all that bad - He's played next to 3 ex-PL defenders now and not looked out of place" 13 hours ago, DontTrustTheDevilInside said: Have to say if the Russell own goal was mirrored the opposite side of the pitch the keogh fans would be quick to blame Davies that he should have commanded that area of the box and got it clear. Because Russell was to the right.... very quiet. Not defending Russell because it was bizarre. Wasn't Russell pretty much in the middle of the box? Like right between the two? And freak goals don't really count - That would be like blaming Davies for Carson's miss-kick 12 hours ago, DontTrustTheDevilInside said: olson has equally got a very good reputation and has been selected by a number of managers of a similar level but no one uses that excuse to defend him. All these scapegoats don't join Derby and all of sudden become worst defenders. I like Olsson - Think he's a good player and was very impressed when we signed him - Never had any problem with him at all 13 hours ago, DontTrustTheDevilInside said: (who don't do so many things for the simple fans to wow at) Yes - well done - Aren't you clever - I'm sure you sit in the stands with your 'expert' knowledge of the game, pipe and slippers and laugh at all the plebs who 'don't understand the game like you do' - Round of applause Or you could just be equally simple with an over-inflated sense of importance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistaram Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 14 hours ago, EnigmaRam said: The best CB in the world would look poor with Olson next to him. Always gets his CB exposed when he's too far up the pitch, or standing off his player far too much and never stopping a cross. He's not a bad player, just not a good defender. Yes probably right about Olson but he didn't look any better when Forsyth was at left back We all know Davies is a good player but not at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaRam Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Mistaram said: Yes probably right about Olson but he didn't look any better when Forsyth was at left back We all know Davies is a good player but not at the moment Fozzy is some way off match fitness. Started poor for the U23's but grew into the game. He will get better. Olson is just so hit and miss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKRam Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Would Keogh really be picked for Republic of Ireland if as bad as some make out? Rowett doubters doubting Martin O'Neill too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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