Alph Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Lads take a seat. Tom, budge over for Abel. Right, just a quick recap, just try to concede no more than 2 goals. Don't worry about scoring. Abel, you hear me? Just don't let in 3 goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 1 hour ago, Derby_EnglandLoyal said: You're the joke more like. You are Darren Wassall and I claim my £5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 9 minutes ago, Ninos said: They had a 3-0 lead. They didn't come out to play just to give up two goals or less. They achieved their objective. My point was that I seriously doubt whether you yourself would have played Thorne. I have more faith that the average Derby fan or football fan would make a better decision than that one. So you would not played any of our normal starting 11 in the lead up to the biggest match of our season despite the fact we definitely needed a confidence boost and could still have gained home advantage in the second leg? Unfortunately I don't have faith in the average Derby fan to make a decision like that, hence why I am happy to trust them decisions who have a much better insight into the game than I will ever have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, McLovin said: I think you're missing the point I was making mate. Thorne's injury could have happened to anyone at any time, Im not disputing that, but the fact is if Thorne had not played that dead rubber game, we could have been in the premier league now. Ipswich are well known for being physical so why risk any of the likes of Hughes,Thorne,Martin,Ince or Keogh in a dead rubber game with nothing to gain and everything to lose. They may have not been physical in that game but why even risk it? It was common sense really. Being at home in a second leg doesn't make any difference nowadays. There may have been a week between the games but why risk it? Players could have picked up hamstring injuries or anything in that Ipswich game. Brucy got it right, we didn't. Wasn't a dead rubber game. We risked key players last time before the play offs. As did QPR against Barnsley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, McLovin said: You are Darren Wassall and I claim my £5 is that all you can say? Weirdo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: So you would not played any of our normal starting 11 in the lead up to the biggest match of our season despite the fact we definitely needed a confidence boost and could still have gained home advantage in the second leg? Unfortunately I don't have faith in the average Derby fan to make a decision like that, hence why I am happy to trust them decisions who have a much better insight into the game than I will ever have. Good post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 1 minute ago, Derby_EnglandLoyal said: is that all you can say? Weirdo. You're the one calling people names. I don't dislike anyone on this forum because I appreciate not everyone have the same opinions but the way you throw your toys out of the pram whenever I disagree with you is seriously making me reconsider that. Happy new year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 11 minutes ago, McLovin said: You're the one calling people names. I don't dislike anyone on this forum because I appreciate not everyone have the same opinions but the way you throw your toys out of the pram whenever I disagree with you is seriously making me reconsider that. Happy new year Bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeadlySaul Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 We should never play our key players ever again as there is a risk they might get injured. I don't know why McClaren keeps making this 'rookie mistake'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Just love it when fans in their twenties who have never played the game professionally can tell when someone who's nearly twice their age and been involved in the game for 4 decades is showing a lack of experience I wouldn't have played Thorne myself, but I can see the other side of the argument ffs. Some of the best managers in the world would have played their strongest team against Ipswich, while other top managers wouldn't even dream of it. As it happens, Thorne got crunched. You could play that game 100 times and it wouldn't happen again. We can all play the hindsight game and come out of it looking clever... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 5 minutes ago, Duracell said: Just love it when fans in their twenties who have never played the game professionally can tell when someone who's nearly twice their age and been involved in the game for 4 decades is showing a lack of experience I wouldn't have played Thorne myself, but I can see the other side of the argument ffs. Some of the best managers in the world would have played their strongest team against Ipswich, while other top managers wouldn't even dream of it. As it happens, Thorne got crunched. You could play that game 100 times and it wouldn't happen again. We can all play the hindsight game and come out of it looking clever... It's so funny mate that first Bit which is very true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 6 minutes ago, Duracell said: Just love it when fans in their twenties who have never played the game professionally can tell when someone who's nearly twice their age and been involved in the game for 4 decades is showing a lack of experience I wouldn't have played Thorne myself, but I can see the other side of the argument ffs. Some of the best managers in the world would have played their strongest team against Ipswich, while other top managers wouldn't even dream of it. As it happens, Thorne got crunched. You could play that game 100 times and it wouldn't happen again. We can all play the hindsight game and come out of it looking clever... Didn't Klopp rest everyone against Swansea before the Europa final and then laugh off the defeat? Then got beat in the Europa with his fully rested team. Like you said, I can see both sides. I wouldn't have complained if he'd rested Thorne. Like against West Brom. Trust Mac to know who's needing rest, who's needing game time. He sees them every day. Think Wassall probably wanted to make the team as fluid as possible. Get right back in the 2013/14 flow. If he'd rested them and Ipswich had won 4-0 and we'd still lost to Hull then we'd have heard all about that instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 So we have established that we all have different opinions, that's good and healthy. Embrace it. We aren't all going to have the same opinions. I imagine that Powell and McClaren have arguments before games. If we all had the same opinions round here it would be boring as hell. The purpose of a forum is to form debate. I imagine in an alternate universe me and DEL are holding hands singing ring a ring o roses, then again probably not thinking about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 7 minutes ago, McLovin said: So we have established that we all have different opinions, that's good and healthy. Embrace it. We aren't all going to have the same opinions. I imagine that Powell and McClaren have arguments before games. If we all had the same opinions round here it would be boring as hell. The purpose of a forum is to form debate. I imagine in an alternate universe me and DEL are holding hands singing ring a ring o roses, then again probably not thinking about it Is that a personal dig about me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Just now, Derby_EnglandLoyal said: Is that a personal dig about me? Nope not at all, just to show we all have different opinions, it would be boring if we all agreed. I don't like or dislike you because I don't know you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, McLovin said: Nope not at all, just to show we all have different opinions, it would be boring if we all agreed. I don't like or dislike you because I don't know you. Then don't mention Me in your post. You don't like my opinion re rest players would have lost momentum. Before playing Ipswich we were unbeaten in 6 4 wins 2 draw. Now just leave it there. Bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Just now, Derby_EnglandLoyal said: Then don't mention Me in your post. You don't like my opinion re rest players would have lost momentum. Before playing Ipswich we were unbeaten in 6 4 wins 2 draw. Now just leave it there. Bye. No need to be so hostile , we are all Derby fans here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddy Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 50 minutes ago, Duracell said: Just love it when fans in their twenties who have never played the game professionally can tell when someone who's nearly twice their age and been involved in the game for 4 decades is showing a lack of experience I wouldn't have played Thorne myself, but I can see the other side of the argument ffs. Some of the best managers in the world would have played their strongest team against Ipswich, while other top managers wouldn't even dream of it. As it happens, Thorne got crunched. You could play that game 100 times and it wouldn't happen again. We can all play the hindsight game and come out of it looking clever... You could use that statement at those constantly whining about Pearson tenure here............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 4 minutes ago, toddy said: You could use that statement at those constantly whining about Pearson tenure here............. I don't think anyone accused Pearson of being inexperienced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddy Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 1 hour ago, Duracell said: I don't think anyone accused Pearson of being inexperienced. Only knowing nothing and unable to coach.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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