uttoxram75 Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 On 18/12/2015 at 21:27, StockholmRam said: Maggie gets the blame from some quarters for the mining industry going down the swanny and all the mines closing down and miners out of work. They never mention the pits labour closed under Wilson which actually were at an alarming rate and many more than under Thatchers tenure. I don't have enough " miner" knowledge to know the ins and outs of what the families went through, good or bad. But I do know the spite and bile thrown towards Margeret Thatcher about what happened back then is not even handed or fair. She was the pantomime villain Stockers, she was actually as bad as her Spitting image puppet. It was the way she came over when she was talking....she was Hyacinth Bucket on acid! The spite and hatred in her voice for ordinary working people was real. The real culprits (as ever) were the right wing think tanks, big business economists, corporate lobbyists who were desperate to take what little gains working people had made back into their tax haven bosoms. Maggie, was not too bright if truth be told, like so many other bigoted snobs, she would resolutely believe she was right even if the evidence was staring her right in the face. Matron knows best......when she called us, and I say us even though I've never been down a pit in my life, the "enemies within", she was talking about every working bloke or woman who had the temerity to ask for better working conditions, more pay, holiday pay, sick pay etc...she really saw us as the enemy. The enemy of who? The enemy of the ruling elite who use people like Thatcher to split and divide the people of this country. Figures published recently show that the top 10% have increased their wealth by 20% since 2010. That's 5 years of austerity where billions have been transferred from ordinary working people to fund tax cuts for the already fabulously wealthy elite. That's Thatcher's legacy for me Stockers old pal, I would be far happier if people took the time to read a bit more than the opinion columns in the mainstream press and direct a bit more of the blame to where it sits rather than political poodles like Maggie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesterRam Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 We didn't learn our lesson from the 80's,we will now have mass unemployment in the areas effected, I hate this government more than Blair and his cronies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StockholmRam Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 2 hours ago, uttoxram75 said: She was the pantomime villain Stockers, she was actually as bad as her Spitting image puppet. It was the way she came over when she was talking....she was Hyacinth Bucket on acid! The spite and hatred in her voice for ordinary working people was real. The real culprits (as ever) were the right wing think tanks, big business economists, corporate lobbyists who were desperate to take what little gains working people had made back into their tax haven bosoms. Maggie, was not too bright if truth be told, like so many other bigoted snobs, she would resolutely believe she was right even if the evidence was staring her right in the face. Matron knows best......when she called us, and I say us even though I've never been down a pit in my life, the "enemies within", she was talking about every working bloke or woman who had the temerity to ask for better working conditions, more pay, holiday pay, sick pay etc...she really saw us as the enemy. The enemy of who? The enemy of the ruling elite who use people like Thatcher to split and divide the people of this country. Figures published recently show that the top 10% have increased their wealth by 20% since 2010. That's 5 years of austerity where billions have been transferred from ordinary working people to fund tax cuts for the already fabulously wealthy elite. That's Thatcher's legacy for me Stockers old pal, I would be far happier if people took the time to read a bit more than the opinion columns in the mainstream press and direct a bit more of the blame to where it sits rather than political poodles like Maggie. Maggie the pantomime villain... I can buy that. Im calling Harold Wilson as widow twanky as well though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Maybe I should keep my gob shut since I wasn't even born when this was all cracking off, but I've always felt "the enemies within" is a horrendous way to talk about the citizens you govern over. It's one step away from "Take these enemies within and throw them in the Gulag". Which ironically, was the very ideology she was so intrinsically terrified of. She fought off the miners because she equated "unions and worker rights" with "Brezhnevite Communism". Hardly the same thing Maggie me old chum, people just wanted what they were owed for their loyal service. Good job your "friend" Pinochet taught you a thing or two about suppressing socialism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverurie Ram Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovis aries Posted December 24, 2015 Author Share Posted December 24, 2015 On a whimsical note, during the Heath government part of the miner workers pay deal was an automatic rise when cost of living rose,after we had three rises in as many months the Tories shat themselves and cancelled the rises, at least we got three . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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