AmericanRam Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 When looking at our youth academy and U21's and U18's,I easily feel we have one of the better youth setups in the league.Mac,Rush,Wassall, and others have done a great job in getting and developing guys for the future of Derby. Which players do you like the best in these squads? I really like the potential Jamie Hanson has, and Koblenz and Calero are very promising also.Who do you see off these squads being the biggest star for the Rams? Any other teams who have a very good youth setup as we do in your opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 southampton have the best youth academy in england with liverpool and chelsea not far behind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddesdenRam Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Our under 18 team have been doing really well and according to the official Barclays Premier League website are 5th in the under 18 league. http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/barclays-u18-premier-league-tables.html?paramYouthStage=NATIONAL The under 18's also beat Manchester City recently who had not lost all season. The under 21 team are 6th in their league: http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/barclays-u21-premier-league-tables/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Hughes, Hendrick, Bennett and erm?Haven't seen Hanson play so have no idea what he's like, has he been on Wiziwig?For all the talk of how good it is I'd like to see a few more breaking through. Can't really count players like Calero when you sign them at 19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuff264 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 southampton have the best youth academy in england with liverpool and chelsea not far behind Chelsea just buy up everyone else's young talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Chelsea just buy up everyone else's young talent Likewise with Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC_17 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 southampton have the best youth academy in england with liverpool and chelsea not far behind chelsea!?! they've produced no one at all, how can you say that they are in the top 3 in the country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 southampton have the best youth academy in england with liverpool and chelsea not far behind Won't argue with Soton but will with Chelsea. They get the best talent and buy in products from around the world but to what end? Just to be spooned out on loan. Chances of a first team spot? Minimal if not zero. Is that a good youth academy? Home grown talent? Yes, plenty in the younger age groups but not when it matters. Do Chelsea need an academy? They like to think so but in reality they don't. Need a left back, go buy an established international. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 chelsea!?! they've produced no one at all, how can you say that they are in the top 3 in the country? Won't argue with Soton but will with Chelsea. They get the best talent and buy in products from around the world but to what end? Just to be spooned out on loan. Chances of a first team spot? Minimal if not zero. Is that a good youth academy? Home grown talent? Yes, plenty in the younger age groups but not when it matters. Do Chelsea need an academy? They like to think so but in reality they don't. Need a left back, go buy an established international. You two need to get a life and play football manager more, then you will be in the know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 You two need to get a life and play football manager more, then you will be in the know Nah leave that to computer geeks... Know any? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddesdenRam Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Hughes, Hendrick, Bennett.....erm Ball? Haven't seen Hanson play so have no idea what he's like, has he been on Wiziwig? For all the talk of how good it is I'd like to see a few more breaking through. Can't really count players like Calero when you sign them at 19. The problem is when you sign players like Ibe Wisdom Thorne Dawkins Bamford Whitbread on loan. It stifles the opportunities for young players but then again no one can argue those players who have come in to take up squad positions have done very well. Also if the team is doing very well like they have been since McClaren has come in there is less of a need to bring in youth as you can't justify dropping anyone of the current starting XI for a youth team player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 The problem is when you sign players like Ibe Wisdom Thorne Dawkins Bamford Whitbread on loan. It stifles the opportunities for young players but then again no one can argue those players who have come in to take up squad positions have done very well. Also if the team is doing very well like they have been since McClaren has come in there is less of a need to bring in youth as you can't justify dropping anyone of the current starting XI for a youth team player. I think if you have a player that is shining in the youth sides you bring them through regardless of how well you are doing, in fact I would argue it's better to bring them through onto the bench and give them minutes when you're doing well, not into a struggling team. Hanson is only a year younger than Hughes who has over 100 appearances now, why bring Shotton in and not give Hanson a crack at being backup? Kwame Thomas looks to be knocking them in, England call ups as well but again 19 already yet nowhere near the first team, we sign Best on loan. Ok not everyone can come in as young as Hughes but at 19 I think we should start to see them on the bench, maybe playing in cup games like Calero, 19 again. We're a club that gives youth a chance but our academy for me has to start producing more to be given praise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 chelsea!?! they've produced no one at all, how can you say that they are in the top 3 in the country? they actually have a decent academy. Through their academy they have had the likes of : john terry, ryan bertrand, ray wilkins, robert huth, boussafa, scott sinclair, mancienne, miroslav stoch, bridcutt, le saux, fabio borini. That is decent tbf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 John Terry was signed from West HamRyan Bertrand was signed from GillinghamMbark Boussoufa was at Middenmeer, Fortius and then signed from AjaxScott Sinclair was signed from Bristol RoversMiroslav Stoch was signed from FC NitraFabio Borini was signed from BolognaYou can have the rest tho....Mancienne came from a semi pro side Kingstonian but I'll let you have that one seeing as you did so badly with the rest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 The academy has junior internationals across all age groujps scattered across the home nations. England: U21 Hughes U20 Thomas U19 Bennett U18 Lowe Scotland: U19 Dryden Ireland (Republic): U19 Wixted U17 Tuite Apologies as I've probably missed a few (and intentionally didn't count Calero or Freeman as we bought them in). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posh Ram Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 they actually have a decent academy. Through their academy they have had the likes of : john terry, ryan bertrand, ray wilkins, robert huth, boussafa, scott sinclair, mancienne, miroslav stoch, bridcutt, le saux, fabio borini. That is decent tbf Decent but hardly quality players... although maybe some of them are good on Fifa and let's be honest that's all that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 they actually have a decent academy. Through their academy they have had the likes of : john terry, ryan bertrand, ray wilkins, robert huth, boussafa, scott sinclair, mancienne, miroslav stoch, bridcutt, le saux, fabio borini. That is decent tbf Blimey how far do you want to go back to find a half decent player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North_Stand_Ram Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Chelsea haven't got a great record but their current crop is special. Majoirty will make it professional for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 The question is who for? What makes a good academy? Producing players for other teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanRam Posted October 20, 2014 Author Share Posted October 20, 2014 The question is who for? What makes a good academy? Producing players for other teams? I think main objective should always be to develop players for your own squad,while loaning them out to get experience.Of course,you need a good coaching staff and contacts to make that work and we have both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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