rynny Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 He absolutely dominated the aerial battle against Barker and Ayala for Cov a few seasons ago. He would be a welcome addition in my eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-JW- Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 He absolutely dominated the aerial battle against Barker and Ayala for Cov a few seasons ago. He would be a welcome addition in my eyes Stop living in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Stop living in the past. sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroRam Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 We paid 750k with add ons. Ah Russell, 13 goals in his last SPL campaign. Not too different Juke's record in the championship last season. Figures that You can't just compare scoring records, ffs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North_Stand_Ram Posted June 21, 2014 Author Share Posted June 21, 2014 You can't just compare scoring records, ffs... That seems to be the only thing you're judging him on.... You still haven't answered my question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North_Stand_Ram Posted June 21, 2014 Author Share Posted June 21, 2014 Nixon also saying our bid has been rejected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroRam Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 That seems to be the only thing you're judging him on.... You still haven't answered my question No, I'm basing my opinion on having seen him several times over the last four seasons. Target men are functional but unexciting players. We don't play hoofball and, short of a plan B, the thought of hoofball is a turnoff. What was the question that I hadn't answered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Maybe it's just me but I only really get excited when one of our players (any one of them) puts that ball into the other teams net. My missus thinks I'm odd but then she doesn't understand bless her! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North_Stand_Ram Posted June 21, 2014 Author Share Posted June 21, 2014 No, I'm basing my opinion on having seen him several times over the last four seasons. Target men are functional but unexciting players. We don't play hoofball and, short of a plan B, the thought of hoofball is a turnoff. What was the question that I hadn't answered? Completely untrue. Chris Martin is a target man, do we play hoofball? A target man doesn't have to use his head.. A target man involves being the target ie with Martin, we play the ball into his feet/chest, he holds the ball up and he plays it out-wide/to our attacking midfield player making runs. Lukas could be similar sort of player. The question was who would you sign who is available for that price (£1m-£1.5m...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroRam Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 ... I have no time for straw-man arguments so I'm out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaufort Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 The likelihood of Martin going through another season without injury of loss of form must be small so we need other options. In addition we need height and physical strength when teams like Millwall try to stifle our close passing game. Just looking at his scoring stats and condemning him as not good enough for Derby County is plain daft, on that basis the likes of John O'Hare would never have joined us, nor would Martin. Bolton fans loved him and they want him back, lets give him a chance if he comes, our game might suit him down to the ground and he would give us options for a plan B which we don't have at the moment. Some fans who have seen him about once are already writing him off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North_Stand_Ram Posted June 21, 2014 Author Share Posted June 21, 2014 I have no time for straw-man arguments so I'm out. Straw-man? I felt I made fair points Anyway, Nixon said this @reluctantnicko: @doogiewanderer Told it is instalments to about 1.25m. Depends on breakdown. Boro want decent guaranteed cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Boro want decent guaranteed cash. I'm saying nothing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroRam Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Straw-man? I felt I made fair points Anyway, Nixon said this @reluctantnicko: @doogiewanderer Told it is instalments to about 1.25m. Depends on breakdown. Boro want decent guaranteed cash. To be fair, if that was the deal, it would free up cash without blowing our ffp principle. Cash up front would leave us very little money with which to land targets in more crucial areas specifically RB and defensive midfielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 To be fair, if that was the deal, it would free up cash without blowing our ffp principle. Cash up front would leave us very little money with which to land targets in more crucial areas specifically RB and defensive midfielder. True. Maybe other teams will take pity on us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North_Stand_Ram Posted June 21, 2014 Author Share Posted June 21, 2014 To be fair, if that was the deal, it would free up cash without blowing our ffp principle. Cash up front would leave us very little money with which to land targets in more crucial areas specifically RB and defensive midfielder. Yeah good point. Derby always seem to try and work with add ons, with most big deals we do. Probably the reason why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North_Stand_Ram Posted June 21, 2014 Author Share Posted June 21, 2014 @reluctantnicko: @doogiewanderer There are a lot of ways to do it. Think shaping Derby v Bolton. Don't see Wigan going in hard enough. Wages issue for some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 To be fair, if that was the deal, it would free up cash without blowing our ffp principle. Cash up front would leave us very little money with which to land targets in more crucial areas specifically RB and defensive midfielder. Oh -I didn't know we'd made our budget public what is it then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North_Stand_Ram Posted June 21, 2014 Author Share Posted June 21, 2014 Oh -I didn't know we'd made our budget public what is it then? Difference between naming our budget publically and complying with FFP like Retro stated. Remember we got an extra £3-4m windfall from the play offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroRam Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Oh -I didn't know we'd made our budget public what is it then? This is a cynical attempt to try and start an argument and I have no time for you. Our losses for the previous two seasons are public. Doesn't take a genius to work out the region of our available funds. Look into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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