The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Isn't Thorne a left sided midfielder? Why would swapping him for Eustace make us better at the back? He said he was a defensive midfielder in his interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky1884 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 strikers win you games, but defenders win you titles What about man city Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddesdenRam Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 McClaren eludes to him playing the Eustace role in his pre match rams player interview. Also Simmo said they decided to play Eustace as Thorne had only been here a few days implying he would have played instead of Eustace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Just got back we threw it away today. Just can't defend it's not good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky1884 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 I knew someone would start this thread, i almost did, its cold and wet and we messed up. I think thorne will play and we'll be okay judt rubbish we couldnt hold on and missed the peno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 What about man city And Barcelona. Didn't go to match so this may be an inaccurate summary so I apologise in advance. Eustace was part of the team that got us into a 2 goal lead in the first instance, what seemed to be our problem was as a team we didn't close the game out. Had they not scored the 2nd then we would have gone to win the game at a canter, however instead we tried to score a fourth and was caught out, to blame an individual was IMO not the problem. We will learn though, and will be a better team as a result of this.....I hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfb Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 I just got in from work, long day... hey ho, but i had to watch on my phone the text updates and couldn't believe , we had let a 2 goal margin sli[ in the last 15 mins ! I said in a recent post after yeovil that people should blame the right players... if blame is their game ? I didnt see the match obviously, so will be interested to see the reports, but the question on my lips is this QPR people i know put their early form and clean sheets down to McClaren, and say that their recent lack of clean sheets is cos he's gone, we started to tighten up, but of late have conceeded a fair few ? is it the players not doing what the Mac says or are they not good enough ? Again as for Eustace, it easy to criticise, but who has been the alternative ? He's the cog that allows Hughes/Bryson/ etc to do what they do, and he was free ! At the time an astute piece of business by NC and still a vital cog, he aint perfect, but he does make a difference as we see when Hendrick replaces him, Hendrick cant//doesnt do what Eustace does and visa versa. As for people saying about Thorne replacing Eustace only an hour ago.... wasn't he stretchered off ? and may be out for weeks.... but we cant blame Eustace for the goals from what i saw ? Now, tell me the real POV from someone who was there.. recently. Is it positional or players, or as their 3rd today, just the way it goes...( well i know yeovil's wernt) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 I just got in from work, long day... hey ho, but i had to watch on my phone the text updates and couldn't believe , we had let a 2 goal margin sli[ in the last 15 mins ! I said in a recent post after yeovil that people should blame the right players... if blame is their game ? I didnt see the match obviously, so will be interested to see the reports, but the question on my lips is this QPR people i knoow put their early form and clean sheets down to McClaren, and say that their recent lack of clean sheets is cos he's gone, we started to tighten up, but of late have conceeded a fair few ? is it the players not doing what the Mac says or are they not good enough ? Again as for Eustace, it easy to criticise, but who has been the alternative ? He's the cog that allows Hughes/Bryson/ etc to do what they do, and he was free ! At the time an astute piece of business by NC and still a vital cog, he aint perfect, but he does make a difference as we see when Hendrick replaces him, Hendrick cant//doesnt do what Eustace does and visa versa. As for people saying about Thorne replacing Eustace only an hour ago.... wasn't he stretchered off ? and may be out for weeks.... but we cant blame Eustace for the goals from what i saw ? Reply from Curtains Brum player Thorpe was strechered off. Thorne was unused sub for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfb Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Phew, thanks mate, i was gutted when i thought it was our guy, for us and him.. i guess thats the plight of the working classes who rely while at work on text updates... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMuffin Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 I just got in from work, long day... hey ho, but i had to watch on my phone the text updates and couldn't believe , we had let a 2 goal margin sli[ in the last 15 mins ! I said in a recent post after yeovil that people should blame the right players... if blame is their game ? I didnt see the match obviously, so will be interested to see the reports, but the question on my lips is this QPR people i know put their early form and clean sheets down to McClaren, and say that their recent lack of clean sheets is cos he's gone, we started to tighten up, but of late have conceeded a fair few ? is it the players not doing what the Mac says or are they not good enough ? Again as for Eustace, it easy to criticise, but who has been the alternative ? He's the cog that allows Hughes/Bryson/ etc to do what they do, and he was free ! At the time an astute piece of business by NC and still a vital cog, he aint perfect, but he does make a difference as we see when Hendrick replaces him, Hendrick cant//doesnt do what Eustace does and visa versa. As for people saying about Thorne replacing Eustace only an hour ago.... wasn't he stretchered off ? and may be out for weeks.... but we cant blame Eustace for the goals from what i saw ? Now, tell me the real POV from someone who was there.. recently. Is it positional or players, or as their 3rd today, just the way it goes... Buxton gets away with murder everyone loves the oaf for some reason (oh yeah he scored against Forest! Please!) So basically everyone will try to twist/blame on every goal we concede on anyone they can pin it on be it a ball in the box (fullbacks fault for letting cross in but turn a blind eye to marking from CB to giving it away a minute or two before from midfield or up front when our hapless CB gets done or pace with either through balls through the centre/Chanel's or players running at him. Pace none Height none Positional sense too deep Let's balls bounce in own box Fouls and gives free kicks in dangerous areas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky1884 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 And Barcelona. Didn't go to match so this may be an inaccurate summary so I apologise in advance. Eustace was part of the team that got us into a 2 goal lead in the first instance, what seemed to be our problem was as a team we didn't close the game out. Had they not scored the 2nd then we would have gone to win the game at a canter, however instead we tried to score a fourth and was caught out, to blame an individual was IMO not the problem. We will learn though, and will be a better team as a result of this.....I hope I know just a bit poo today. Steve took ages to come out after bet he went ape ****. we needed the points with the games coming up but okay. Hope thorne comes in people saying eustance just gets walked past but bamford lost the ball for the 2nd goal. just got to think loads of games left and lets beat qpr and then wed have three we didnt expect. When we win its as a team should be the same if we get beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Buxton gets away with murder everyone loves the oaf for some reason (oh yeah he scored against Forest! Please!) So basically everyone will try to twist/blame on every goal we concede on anyone they can pin it on be it a ball in the box (fullbacks fault for letting cross in but turn a blind eye to marking from CB to giving it away a minute or two before from midfield or up front when our hapless CB gets done or pace with either through balls through the centre/Chanel's or players running at him. Pace none Height none Positional sense too deep Let's balls bounce in own box Fouls and gives free kicks in dangerous areasYou have guts you might need a tin hat now but I agree . Whitbread should get a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 It is mainly the way we play. We keep bombing forward, committing men. Their second goal was us getting caught on the break when we were 3-1 up with 15 to go. It's the price you pay to a certain extent. However, Thorne should replace Eustace as the game gets more stretched. Just said similar in the Matchday thread. It's a team game. We don't concede because of our defenders. We concede because we try to have an open game where we can play fast minimal touch football. Play to our strengths. A fast open game suits us. Start playing a game where we take no risks and see what happens to the near on 2 goals pg record we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Phew, thanks mate, i was gutted when i thought it was our guy, for us and him.. i guess thats the plight of the working classes who rely while at work on text updates...Mac should of played Thorpe today for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Just said similar in the Matchday thread. It's a team game. We don't concede because of our defenders. We concede because we try to have an open game where we can play fast minimal touch football. Play to our strengths. A fast open game suits us. Start playing a game where we take no risks and see what happens to the near on 2 goals pg record we have. No excuse we need the defense to defend better from set pieces and open play. PS We do concede because of or defenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMuffin Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 You have guts you might need a tin hat now but I agree . Whitbread should get a chance. Thank you And agree. I think next season we will see at least 2 or 3 new centre backs then we can chat about Buxton next to daddy Clough in ex rams thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete2 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Just said similar in the Matchday thread. It's a team game. We don't concede because of our defenders. We concede because we try to have an open game where we can play fast minimal touch football. Play to our strengths. A fast open game suits us. Start playing a game where we take no risks and see what happens to the near on 2 goals pg record we have. We dont need to take risks when we are 3-1 up tho. The difficulty with the defensive problems is that its different people each goal: Eustace for Yeovils first, Keogh for their second, Bamford for Brums second etc. By no means is it the defenders at fault each time. Just seems at the moment every time we make a defensive mistake the opposition scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 No excuse we need the defense to defend better from set pieces and open play. PS We do concede because of or defenders. I think we're doing well. Maybe I'm alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC_17 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 What about man city last time i checked they hadn't won the title yet, still 15 games to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC_17 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Can't really get my head around that one. In order to win a league title you need to win football matches? usually the best defence wins the title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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