davenportram Posted March 5, 2013 Author Share Posted March 5, 2013 Oh dear did I strike a nerve Mr.Mod.So just remind me if the Manager has no responsibility for the players and tactics what is his job?Think I got it right and so did you but can't admit it. but if the players don't perform to there best is that completely the managers fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 but if the players don't perform to there best is that completely the managers fault not totally.. it's not Clough's fault Sammon couldn't convert the penalty - the old cliche 'once they cross the white line' applies.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top 6 finish Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Did Clough nominate Sammon for the spotkick anyway sammon is Cloughs blue-eyed boy.The penalty wasn't the decider.You said it players and tactics down to the Maager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Clough came out afterwards and said that Conor is the man to take them after Jamie Ward. It's his fault Sammon took the penalty, not for missing it though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodys woman Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Clough came out afterwards and said that Conor is the man to take them after Jamie Ward. It's his fault Sammon took the penalty, not for missing it though I said that and had the piss taken! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Clough came out afterwards and said that Conor is the man to take them after Jamie Ward. It's his fault Sammon took the penalty, not for missing it though I said that and had the piss taken! So, lets just get this straight. Every missed penalty in Derby's history is down to whoever was manager at the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needles Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 So, lets just get this straight. Every missed penalty in Derby's history is down to whoever was manager at the time? Clearly. That twonk Brian Clough when that peno got missed at the BBG vs the cheating Italian scum? Scandalously poor manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Clearly. That twonk Brian Clough when that peno got missed at the BBG vs the cheating Italian scum? Scandalously poor manager. bloke was a total joke mate. his non-league signing got sent off same match...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needles Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 bloke was a total joke mate. his non-league signing got sent off same match...... Non-league Brian? Don't even go there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyDyer Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Conor sammon isn't a scapegoat and his penalty miss isn't the reason fans are on his back. I think sammon is an appalling footballer. But it isn't his fault he plays every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodys woman Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 So, lets just get this straight. Every missed penalty in Derby's history is down to whoever was manager at the time? So, lets just get this straight. Every missed penalty in Derby's history is down to whoever was manager at the time? I'm obviously not saying that, I am saying making him the second choice penalty taker is a mistake by the manager in my opinion. You disagree and think he's the right man for the job if Jamie Ward isn't on the pitch, I think you are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eranio20 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I think what people are saying is why did Sammon get to take the penalty when his confidence was already shot to pieces. I just seen the game again and Sammon ran to the ball like a child to step up. Bryson and Ben Davies have been proven at scoring from the spot in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I'm obviously not saying that, I am saying making him the second choice penalty taker is a mistake by the manager in my opinion. You disagree and think he's the right man for the job if Jamie Ward isn't on the pitch, I think you are wrong. You are jumping to conclusions there woody. I have not said he's the right man for the job I was merely pointing out the futility of castigating the manager every time a player misses a penalty....i'm sure there's many things that you can blame Clough for but surely the odd penalty miss is a bit harsh to pin on him. It happens mate. Its football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodys woman Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 You are jumping to conclusions there woody. I have not said he's the right man for the job I was merely pointing out the futility of castigating the manager every time a player misses a penalty....i'm sure there's many things that you can blame Clough for but surely the odd penalty miss is a bit harsh to pin on him. It happens mate. Its football. I know it happens, I didn't mean to castigate the manager, it was Sunday I'd been to the pub to watch the footy and was a bit pissed off with things when I wrote the comment. I'm a big supporter of Nigel, always have been, I think he's done a good job and wouldn't want anyone else in charge. I was meaning to just say that I think he got this call wrong in having Sammon as the penalty taker. I'd back Jamie Ward to score a pen, so if he took one and missed I wouldn't blame the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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