froggg Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 [size=2] St George's Park National Football Centre opening heralds dawn of new era for England A new era dawns for English football on Tuesday, a wind of change confronting the dark storm-clouds that have stood too long over the national game. http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02363/stgoerge_2363568b [size=1]Centre of excellence: St George's Park National Football Centre [/size] [size=1]Photo: GETTY IMAGES[/size][/size] [size=2][url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/columnists/henrywinter/]http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01782/HenryWinter_60_1782318j [size=1]By [url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/columnists/henrywinter/]Henry Winter[/size] [size=1]6:45AM BST 09 Oct 2011[/size] [size=1]So a new dawn for English Football.........Rio anyone?? 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='B)' />[size=2] [/size][/size][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Try not to use the "Dawn" word in your posts Froggg, it makes me think of a stuck record on another thread. 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
froggg Posted October 9, 2012 Author Share Posted October 9, 2012 The FA announce no men's GB Football team at the 2016 Rio Olympics 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':rolleyes:' /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Just seen that Hope Powell bird swanning around at England's training session...the world's gone mad. 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':(' /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFCfranco Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 we still won't win anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex W Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 £120m of FA investment put into an initiative that will only benefit those players already playing for England, whom almost exclusively already recieve access to the best facilities in the country at their respective clubs and other England based training camps. Think of that. £120m. And today everyone is patting themselves on the back at the FA and walzing Prince William round like we've done something fantastic? They've not. They've pissed that money up the wall. If we really wanted to put money towards the future generations that £120m could've been spent on every club in the Football League and the 'Blue Square Leagues' building their own independant youth structures (facilities/pitches/hiring coaches) and made sure that from the age 8-9 upwards every club at that level has a youth academy looking for and coaching the next generation, and that whether you were at Middlesborough or Gainsborough you had access to near enough the exact same chance of progressing as a young talent, you'd have youth prospects cropping up left, right and centre. If there was money leftover, improve every clubs own training and pitch facilities from the BSP up until all the funding was all gone, that's where forgotten youth players drop down to when released, many of them quickly find their feet and find themselves moving up the leagues, with more finance even into those BSP clubs you'd see youngsters coming through that way too, albeit with a shorter lifespan after fighting their way back to a high level. Instead we've got one facility, just one, that'll house a select few of each generation who're already being coached to their best capacity and don't really need this building. Well done the FA, completely missing the point oncemore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex W Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 we still won't win anything. Watch the England C team, atleast they never lack effort (and we win a few, too). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 £120m of FA investment put into an initiative that will only benefit those players already playing for England, whom almost exclusively already recieve access to the best facilities in the country at their respective clubs and other England based training camps. Think of that. £120m. And today everyone is patting themselves on the back at the FA and walzing Prince William round like we've done something fantastic? They've not. They've pissed that money up the wall. If we really wanted to put money towards the future generations that £120m could've been spent on every club in the Football League and the 'Blue Square Leagues' building their own independant youth structures (facilities/pitches/hiring coaches) and made sure that from the age 8-9 upwards every club at that level has a youth academy looking for and coaching the next generation, and that whether you were at Middlesborough or Gainsborough you had access to near enough the exact same chance of progressing as a young talent, you'd have youth prospects cropping up left, right and centre. If there was money leftover, improve every clubs own training and pitch facilities from the BSP up until all the funding was all gone, that's where forgotten youth players drop down to when released, many of them quickly find their feet and find themselves moving up the leagues, with more finance even into those BSP clubs you'd see youngsters coming through that way too, albeit with a shorter lifespan after fighting their way back to a high level. Instead we've got one facility, just one, that'll house a select few of each generation who're already being coached to their best capacity and don't really need this building. Well done the FA, completely missing the point oncemore. If its any consolation Alex, my dog had a large poo roughly where the main pitch is when it was under construction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex W Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 If its any consolation Alex, my dog had a large poo roughly where the main pitch is when it was under construction. Your dog has foretold the amount of impact that the place will have with that gesture. Good dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 England lacks 'football rapido' ie. fast football.. 5 a side courts which focuses on pressure, first touch, close control, passing, movement, intercepting, vision and quick feet.. Mexico doesn't have 11 a side pitches, everyone plays 5 a side football on artificial pitches and you can see when they get to professional level just how good the control of the players is.. You're average guy here has such better control than your average guy in England.. Where strength, pace, size and aggression is certainly favoured in England.. I love the football culture here, it's so technical.. Whilst 3rd or 4th division football here lacks quality at least you can see they've been brought up with the mentality of 'football rapido' so basic control and movement is there and it's enjoyable to watch.. Take that into comparison with a Martin Allen side and the difference is huge.. They keep saying they're changing the mentality of the English game and it takes years to put into practice, but they've been saying that over the last 10 years I don't see much difference if any.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram1884 Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 England lacks 'football rapido' ie. fast football.. 5 a side courts which focuses on pressure, first touch, close control, passing, movement, intercepting, vision and quick feet.. Mexico doesn't have 11 a side pitches, everyone plays 5 a side football on artificial pitches and you can see when they get to professional level just how good the control of the players is.. You're average guy here has such better control than your average guy in England.. Where strength, pace, size and aggression is certainly favoured in England.. I love the football culture here, it's so technical.. Whilst 3rd or 4th division football here lacks quality at least you can see they've been brought up with the mentality of 'football rapido' so basic control and movement is there and it's enjoyable to watch.. Take that into comparison with a Martin Allen side and the difference is huge.. They keep saying they're changing the mentality of the English game and it takes years to put into practice, but they've been saying that over the last 10 years I don't see much difference if any.. if you care to look......http://www.thefa.com/st-georges-park ......the facilities are for EVERYONE! just take a bit of your negative time to read all about the facilities that are on offer.....check out the Brian Clough room...(Futsal room...as you should know is a fast 5 a side game being played more in this country) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcnram Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 £120m of FA investment put into an initiative that will only benefit those players already playing for England, whom almost exclusively already recieve access to the best facilities in the country at their respective clubs and other England based training camps. Think of that. £120m. And today everyone is patting themselves on the back at the FA and walzing Prince William round like we've done something fantastic? They've not. They've pissed that money up the wall. If we really wanted to put money towards the future generations that £120m could've been spent on every club in the Football League and the 'Blue Square Leagues' building their own independant youth structures (facilities/pitches/hiring coaches) and made sure that from the age 8-9 upwards every club at that level has a youth academy looking for and coaching the next generation, and that whether you were at Middlesborough or Gainsborough you had access to near enough the exact same chance of progressing as a young talent, you'd have youth prospects cropping up left, right and centre. If there was money leftover, improve every clubs own training and pitch facilities from the BSP up until all the funding was all gone, that's where forgotten youth players drop down to when released, many of them quickly find their feet and find themselves moving up the leagues, with more finance even into those BSP clubs you'd see youngsters coming through that way too, albeit with a shorter lifespan after fighting their way back to a high level. Instead we've got one facility, just one, that'll house a select few of each generation who're already being coached to their best capacity and don't really need this building. Well done the FA, completely missing the point oncemore. Alex, it is you who have missed the point. One of the major reasons for building SGP is that for the first time ever we will have a proper structure and centre for training coaches. The number of UEFA qualified coaches in this country is pitifully low compared to other countries like Spain, Holland, Italy, Germany & France. All of these countries produce players with better technique than England (our Premier league is full of them). All of these countries have a much better and consistent process for skill development of young players. All of these countries have a main centre as a focal point for developing the game. All of these countries have been far more successful than England at a national level. I suspect that if they did as you said and dished money out to a system that has already put England behind all the other major countries then that would truly be pissing it up the wall. This way it is an investment in our game. Obviously we need to take it further and bring into play smaller pitches and 7 / 9 a side games for the youngsters in schools etc. but what a great facility it is. Everything is going to be based at the one centre - that is all the coach development, national teams, referees, the league management association, medical facilities and research etc. It has taken way too long to get it up and running and it is very much a long term project but it is a real boost to our potential as a footballing nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 As much as I think this is a fantastic facility to boost England as a footballing nation... It does so on the pitch. Off the pitch we are still screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex W Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Alex, it is you who have missed the point. One of the major reasons for building SGP is that for the first time ever we will have a proper structure and centre for training coaches. The number of UEFA qualified coaches in this country is pitifully low compared to other countries like Spain, Holland, Italy, Germany & France. All of these countries produce players with better technique than England (our Premier league is full of them). All of these countries have a much better and consistent process for skill development of young players. All of these countries have a main centre as a focal point for developing the game. All of these countries have been far more successful than England at a national level. I suspect that if they did as you said and dished money out to a system that has already put England behind all the other major countries then that would truly be pissing it up the wall. This way it is an investment in our game. Obviously we need to take it further and bring into play smaller pitches and 7 / 9 a side games for the youngsters in schools etc. but what a great facility it is. Everything is going to be based at the one centre - that is all the coach development, national teams, referees, the league management association, medical facilities and research etc. It has taken way too long to get it up and running and it is very much a long term project but it is a real boost to our potential as a footballing nation. 1) One of the major reasons for building SGP is that for the first time ever we will have a proper structure and centre for training coaches. And to spend £120m on a centre for coaching is absolutely criminal given the already ample facilities across the country, how many coaches will this truly help improve? How much good will a full state of the art facilities have in regard to the actual training of coaches? Coaches are trained by other coaches, they do not need a £120m on once specific place, what they need is for our coaches to learn new ways of coaching from a young age, and that does not require any money at all, not on this scale at the very least. 2) The number of UEFA qualified coaches in this country is pitifully low compared to other countries like Spain, Holland, Italy, Germany & France. True, however that may well be down to the amount of travelling coaches from those countries do, very rarely does an English manager pitch up abroad when compared to how often it happens with coaches from those countries. And Uefa qualified coaching does not in itself mean the coaches are any better than others that can be trained to the level below, it merely means they're qualified to that level and passed the tests needed to do so. That does not in itself mean they're a great coach, simply they've passed the tests to that corresponding coaching badge. 3) All of these countries produce players with better technique than England (our Premier league is full of them) Indeed they do, and that has nothing to do with those countries splurging out on one select building. That has to do with an infrastructure going on from the age of 8-9 onwards where kids are taught how to control possession and how to play to a certain style, rather than being taught to win by any means necessary. Those countries also put a damn site more money across the board into youth coaching at every club than we do, hence my suggestions of how this money would be better spent. In Spain for example every club is required to bring through their own players every year or two to meet squad needs, because of this the overall youth structure within the top two leagues are fantastic, across the board. This needs to happen here. 4) All of these countries have a much better and consistent process for skill development of young players. Indeed they do, but this again is not down to having one centre of excellence. This is because of across the board teachings at almost every club in Spain have a structure in place to create players who can hold the ball, play a certain way and then walk into that side and not have to worry about adapting to the state of play. That can be coached over here without any real expenditure, changing the way we teach the future generation is down to the system of coaching we use, not the training of the coaches itself. Coaches can be retrained to teach this way simply through international coaches showing us their structures and we then replicating and improving upon them where we can. We do not need a centre of excellence to do this. 5) All of these countries have been far more successful than England at a national level. Yes, they have, mainly because of their youth structures, not their centres for excellence or where their coaches were trained. It is 'how' they're trained that's the key, and how they train the youth, which were not devised in a centre of excellence. That was devised before building will have taken place for a national centre. And that's the key. I don't doubt that it's a fine building with excellent facilities that will help improve the coaching, refereeing and medical standards of those few who go there. My issue is with the fact that we've spent £120m on a centre for excellence when we've barely even begun to change the actual way we coach kids, we haven't insured the infrastructure at every club in England can produce talent without worrying about the cost of it and we've now blown a huge sum of money that could've done atleast one of those, and begun the other. You first organise the way you teach kids and decide a national plan to do so (5-a-sides etc) and train coaches to do it, you then make sure every club able to do so has a system put in place where they're all taking on kidsfrom the age of 8 or so onwards and coaching them exactly the same way across the nation through that system, albeit without a few extra add-ons at smaller clubs who can't afford to do so and with some tactical difference at each club. Then, and only then, when both of those needs have been met, do you even begin to think about a centre of excellence for those then generated players and coaches to make use of. We've done it backwards, and probably held ourselves back by a few years in doing so. We have the centre of excellence, but it matters little when there is no national plan and no system for every club possible to be creating players and coaches who might one day go there. That is my issue. 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bcnram Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 1) One of the major reasons for building SGP is that for the first time ever we will have a proper structure and centre for training coaches. And to spend £120m on a centre for coaching is absolutely criminal given the already ample facilities across the country, how many coaches will this truly help improve? How much good will a full state of the art facilities have in regard to the actual training of coaches? Coaches are trained by other coaches, they do not need a £120m on once specific place, what they need is for our coaches to learn new ways of coaching from a young age, and that does not require any money at all, not on this scale at the very least. To be honest I don't care that much that you are so short-sighted regarding the state of football in this country but I will throw in a wee bit of info for you: Three years ago an official report concluded that coaching is the "golden thread" leading to international success, but new Uefa data shows that there are only 2,769 English coaches holding Uefa's B, A and Pro badges, its top qualifications. Spain has produced 23,995, Italy 29,420, Germany 34,970 and France 17,588. Between them those four nations have provided eight of the 12 finalists at all the World Cups and European Championships since 1998. England, meanwhile, have not appeared in a tournament final in 44 years. There are 2.25 million players in England and only one Uefa-qualified coach for every 812 people playing the game. Spain, the World Cup favourites, have 408,134 players, giving a ratio of 1:17. In Italy, the world champions, the ratio is 1:48, in France it is 1:96, Germany 1:150 and even Greece, the Euro 2004 winners, have only 180,000 registered players for their 1,100 coaches, a ratio of 1:135. I am thrilled for you that on your planet training new coaches doesn't have any cost, because on the planet Earth it does. They are hoping to have something like 250,000 coaches go through SGP by 2020 who will go away and coach children in the same way. They are looking to have 120 pro licence holders and 500 - 1000 qualified with the A-licence. This cannot be left to the professional clubs as their interest is their club not the national game. 2) The number of UEFA qualified coaches in this country is pitifully low compared to other countries like Spain, Holland, Italy, Germany & France. True, however that may well be down to the amount of travelling coaches from those countries do, very rarely does an English manager pitch up abroad when compared to how often it happens with coaches from those countries. And Uefa qualified coaching does not in itself mean the coaches are any better than others that can be trained to the level below, it merely means they're qualified to that level and passed the tests needed to do so. That does not in itself mean they're a great coach, simply they've passed the tests to that corresponding level. I suspect that there would be a tad better chance of them being a better coach than one who has not got to that level. 3) All of these countries produce players with better technique than England (our Premier league is full of them) Indeed they do, and that has nothing to do with those countries splurging out on one select building. That has to do with an infrastructure going on from the age of 8-9 onwards where kids are taught how to control possession and how to play to a certain style, rather than being taught to win by any means necessary. Those countries also put a damn site more money across the board into youth coaching at every club than we do, hence my suggestions of how this money would be better spent. In Spain for example every club is required to bring through their own players every year or two to meet squad needs, because of this the overall youth structure within the top two leagues are fantastic, across the board. This needs to happen here I never suggested that a building would do this. The fact that we want to largely replicate those ideals, but have a focal point for it all (as all the other major countries do in their own way), has to be an advantage. I have not heard anyone within football in this country come out and say what a terrible idea it is. 4) All of these countries have a much better and consistent process for skill development of young players. Indeed they do, but this again is not down to having one centre of excellence. This is because of across the board teachings at almost every club in Spain have a structure in place to create players who can hold the ball, play a certain way and then walk into that side and not have to worry about adapting to the state of play. That can be coached over here without any real expenditure, changing the way we teach the future generation is down to the system of coaching we use, not the training of the coaches itself. Coaches can be retrained to teach this way simply through international coaches showing us their structures and we then replicating and improving upon them where we can. We do not need a centre of excellence to do this. And you would trust clubs to do this? 5) All of these countries have been far more successful than England at a national level. Yes, they have, mainly because of their youth structures, not their centres for excellence or where their coaches were trained. It is 'how' they're trained that's the key, and how they train the youth, which were not devised in a centre of excellence. That was devised before building will have taken place for a national centre. And that's the key. I don't doubt that it's a fine building with excellent facilities that will help improve the coaching, refereeing and medical standards of those few who go there. My issue is with the fact that we've spent £120m on a centre for excellence when we've barely even begun to change the actual way we coach kids, we haven't insured the infrastructure at every club in England can produce talent without worrying about the cost of it and we've now blown a huge sum of money that could've done atleast one of those, and begun the other. You first organise the way you teach kids and decide a national plan to do so (5-a-sides etc) and train coaches to do it, you then make sure every club able to do so has a system put in place where they're all taking on kidsfrom the age of 8 or so onwards and coaching them exactly the same way across the nation through that system, albeit without a few extra add-ons at smaller clubs who can't afford to do so and with some tactical difference at each club. Then, and only then, when both of those needs have been met, do you even begin to think about a centre of excellence for those then generated players and coaches to make use of. We've done it backwards, and probably held ourselves back by a few years in doing so. We have the centre of excellence, but it matters little when there is no national plan and no system for every club possible to be creating players and coaches who might one day go there. That is my issue. I go back to my first point. I don't think you really understand what SGP is about. (TL:DR i'm sure, apologies) I don't know what this means 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 You don't need to spend $120mill on a new building to create a new 'training regime'... That's ridiculous.. And Steven Gerrard going on about not having any excuses about winning now because they have this new building, is he serious? Or just another scouser with an IQ well below your average.. It's how you train players at each individual club that counts.. The players recieve the majority of their training at their respective acadamies at their respective clubs.. I don't need to go to a state of the art $120mill building for some guy to tell me this is how we should play and coach kids.. Everyone has their own ideas, I watched football here on courts that cost $100 and I can see how players are developed and how technical ability comes to them without the need for 'special training' In Spain do you think all of these coaches were coached the same way by some sort of system.. The number of Uefa licenced coaches in Spain has nothing to do with how good they are.. It's their basic ball methods that seperate them from England. Coaches at Barcelona, Valencia, Malaga, Athletic Bilboa, Valladolid, Real Betis, Sevilla, Real Madrid, Getafe etc.. were not all coached under a school of excellence, and each academy has produced worldclass players for years.. It's basic training from youngsters upwards from coaches that focus far more technical abilities than strength and aggression etc. I agree with Alex, such a waste of money that should be spent developing facilities and grassroot football at each individual club.. I also think coaches should be made to do work experience abroad for 6 months or a year to understand and take in different methods.. A year in Spain or Portugal or even South America could do wonders.. My time in Mexico has made me realise just how technical training can have such a big difference for kids growing up.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcnram Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 You don't need to spend $120mill on a new building to create a new 'training regime'... That's ridiculous.. And Steven Gerrard going on about not having any excuses about winning now because they have this new building, is he serious? Or just another scouser with an IQ well below your average.. It's how you train players at each individual club that counts.. The players recieve the majority of their training at their respective acadamies at their respective clubs.. I don't need to go to a state of the art $120mill building for some guy to tell me this is how we should play and coach kids.. Everyone has their own ideas, I watched football here on courts that cost $100 and I can see how players are developed and how technical ability comes to them without the need for 'special training' In Spain do you think all of these coaches were coached the same way by some sort of system.. The number of Uefa licenced coaches in Spain has nothing to do with how good they are.. It's their basic ball methods that seperate them from England. Coaches at Barcelona, Valencia, Malaga, Athletic Bilboa, Valladolid, Real Betis, Sevilla, Real Madrid, Getafe etc.. were not all coached under a school of excellence, and each academy has produced worldclass players for years.. It's basic training from youngsters upwards from coaches that focus far more technical abilities than strength and aggression etc. I agree with Alex, such a waste of money that should be spent developing facilities and grassroot football at each individual club.. I also think coaches should be made to do work experience abroad for 6 months or a year to understand and take in different methods.. A year in Spain or Portugal or even South America could do wonders.. My time in Mexico has made me realise just how technical training can have such a big difference for kids growing up.. I think your trust in the professional clubs in England to do the right thing shows a refreshing innocence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex W Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 bcnram - So you're telling me that the fact they had the Uefa licenses was proof of international success? Or was it infact WHAT they were teaching them, rather than the fact those countries simply have a large amount of coaches who qualified for a higher grade that defined their success? Those countries who've succeeded have mostly focused on training in certain ways, no country has succeeded due to more of those coaches having a higher badge than others. Getting those badges only means showing the graders for the badge you can pass the tests and coaching situations they provide, it means nothing in terms of the way those coaches will then go and coach. As you pointed out, the clubs will be out for themselves, meaning any coach who goes through SPG could end up going to a Stoke or WHA and training the players to long ball. The point is the badge doesn't make the coach, the way the coach chooses to teach players is. And that can be organised on a nationwide scale through the FA so that instead of worrying about getting a UEFA badge as some kind of superpower that'll fire us to glory, we could actually be focusing on a system for those coaches to teach our youth to control the ball, play football the way it's meant to be and train them in various formations that'll be at the forefront of the future. That does not require a high level badge, it does however require an initiative to put forward to all coaches what we're looking to do, and how to re-train those who cannot do so. Now that, that could've been something to put money towards to. The clubs being out for themselves part is something where every coach would be employed to teach the youth of tommorrow near enough the same (and new) way. Every club would be asked to buy into the scheme (atleast those who accepted the philosophy of the plan) and facilities and coaches for each could be organised with the exact same style accross the country for over 120 clubs. The FA could employ inspectors to oversee a different club week by week to make sure there were no clubs not coaching to the level or style required. Clubs would not be out for themselves if said facilities were supplied with that £120m, no club would say no to an initiative that would one day soon provide them with either a series of first teamers or even a cash-cow to be sold to a higher side for very good money. The club based system in place combined with the new initiative for a different coaching philosophy from the age of 8 upwards would provide this country with one hell of a production line for youngsters across 5-6 leagues, which in itself would result in better English players all-round and therefore a better international side. What the SGP does is give English players and a select series of coaches very nice facilities with which to train in the exact same way, it does not guarantee any portion of success and the idea that Uefa badges mean success is inherently flawed. It's the way you coach, not with what badges, that matter. Oh, and TL:DR is internet speak for "Too long, didn't read." Usually used when someone realises they've blathered on for too long! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I'd like to see a breakdown of what that £120m was spent on, at the same time show me the receipts for the Olympic opening and closing ceremonies and the Wembley Stadium construction. Quite a few pockets would of been lined in the process me thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcnram Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I think that the actual cost was £105M which on average across the 92 clubs is not a great deal and would soon disappear. With SGP it will be there as an ongoing concern. Personally, I think it is a huge step forward for football in this country. I think that there must be some sort of correlation between the number of qualified coaches and success on the football field because that is what statistics tell us. Thanks for the translation 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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