Sheikh n Bake

2 hours ago, Reggie Greenwood said:

 

 

So obviously as a more qualified coach than LR and having observed him on the training ground ( which I presume you must have done to make that comment ) tell me what training regimes and drills he is using that are wrong and which ones you would use that would be better. By what measure and how do you know whether he has or not made a difference ? 

We finished 6th in the league before our championship specialist arrived. Since his arrival, we're now barely capable of competing at this level.

What have you got to suggest he's adding good value?

I'll get excited once we have a takeover sorted or Mel decides to carry on and the embargo is lifted to allow us to sign some half decent players.

It's a good job England are still in the Euros otherwise i think the pressure on the club from the fans would be far greater. If there's no progress on 14 July, i think the fans will be more vocal.

34 minutes ago, Reggie Greenwood said:

So explain what he does or does not do on the training ground

He doesn't improve the overall performance or professionalism of the players. Make a case that he does...

54 minutes ago, Reggie Greenwood said:

How do you know what LR is or not contributing have you been to Moor Farm to watch training ? 

He's our championship specialist ? so specialist that he's turned us into a side that's never going to get out of the championship.

24 minutes ago, Terry Hennessy said:

McGuire

Who?

Assuming we've gone to the normal accounting methods... We no longer need to keep poo players like Waghorn on purely for a FFP perspective. Great news.

2 hours ago, Allanthediver said:

It's difficult to get an accurate reflection from this forum on when people stop buying a season ticket. We are by definition on here a somewhat self selecting group who are bothered enough to spend our time on a DCFC forum. I would therefore expect a higher proportion of more emotionally invested fans...and consequently a higher level of loyalty to keep buying.

Nearly all teams see a decline in tickets sold as they decline down the leagues. If for example Derby get relegated to League 1 how many seasons tickets would they sell. £15k? Clearly 5-10k less than the recent play off chasing seasons.

Taking COVID out of the equation If that were the case then in normal circumstances  around 20%-25% of season tickets holders would stop buying just because of lower level football.

Good to see a sensible response other than "Id buy a season ticket no matter what".

I'm not suggesting you go support another team... 

1 minute ago, G STAR RAM said:

Thats approximately 30% more than I pay for my season ticket. 

Think my ticket has gone up possibly £150 in the 25 years we have been at Pride Park.

My guess is that concession and other none prime seating is also cheaper across all the other teams too... 

Bring your own tea bags though.

1 minute ago, ThePrisoner said:

The vast majority of season tickets are not that price at Pride Park. 

Point above.

1 minute ago, Sheikh n Bake said:

 

I understand this isn't necessarily an accurate reflection but I'm assuming the prices of our cheap seats also read across to above other teams too. You may be able to find something that suggests otherwise though?

3 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said:

Are we paying top end prices?

Ive paid mid 30s to early 40s for single away matchday tickets for a few years now.

My season ticket works out at just less than £22 a game.

5 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said:

Oh yeah I know that but saying you are giving him your money is just wrong.

You want better players but you don't want to contribute towards them is the general jist that I get from your post?

The post is to determine at what point you personally decide enough is enough. Currently were being expected to pay top end championship season ticket prices for a squad that wouldn't compete for promotion in League one. There must be a point where you refuse to buy one? If we got relegated twice on the bounce and the prices were £600 maybe?

I don't believe for one second that anyone would continue to buy regardless of the circumstances...

6 minutes ago, Needlesh said:

I'd support Derby and have a ST in the Conference North, and it would be every bit as much worth it as a season in the Prem. It's about the support, not the 'product'.

Even if you were being charged £500?

This is part of my argument. If we're being charged championship prices this season but have barely a team that would compete in L1, are we being ripped off? 

6 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said:

You do realise he is putting £x £x million of his own money into the club to keep it afloat

You do also realise it's under his tenure that he's got us into the position we are now? Let's not paint him a hero for funding his self inflicted mess.

4 minutes ago, 24Charlie said:

Football is more than watching a game. You can do that on TV. But it’s the match day experience for me. Many a time the game is incidental but sometimes it’s all consuming. Meet your mates or go with family it’s where memories are made and if you don’t by a ticket what have you got?

 What else are you going to do on a cold Tuesday night in February?

Watch it on sky on the red button for free.

2 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said:

Did you have a season ticket in the infamous 11 points season? Turned over every week but the fans were still class, plus many still renewed for the following season!

Well yeah... buying a season ticket during a premier league season isn't exactly a sign of loyalty though is it? 

However, buying it during a pre season where we have 10 players (?) And no sign of a takeover on sight and in the championship... That's showing loyalty. At What Point does loyalty turn to being daft? I suppose it's whatever gets you your kicks I guess.

I also feel like the only way to show Mel your displeasure though with the current situation is to vote with you feet and not give him anymore of our money.

So the majority of you would buy tickets regardless of the state of the team and ambition showed by the club? Fair play.

I just wouldn't get any enjoyment knowing we're going to get turned over every week. I'd rather wait until we were in League One and could be competitive for mid table.

Interested to hear peoples thoughts about at what point do you decide enough is enough and you cancel your season ticket? There will always be those who say they'll fork out £500 a season because in their eyes they're the most loyal supporter...of which you're a chairman's dream!

Me personally, I refuse to be served up a poo sandwich. I won't be committing my money to watch a bunch of kids turn out and get turned over week in week out if we fail to invest in the playing squad. I don't think that makes me a glory supporter... but I don't think I'll have the right to complain each week if I buy a ticket knowing that the squad is under funded and left in a state. Effectively,  you know that you're getting yourself in for!

What's everyone else's considerations? 

18 minutes ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said:

Think you may be clutching a bit there.  The majority of League 1 sides will have more competitive squads than us next season.  I'm hoping we're not playing them.

And I feel for those players still contracted with us. Jozwiak, Bielik, Sibley and Knight all deserve way better than to be playing in a team scraping the bottom of the championship. 

I suspect the transfer requests will start going in come the end of July/August if we don't start brining in some quality.

17 minutes ago, David said:

Sitting here calling for his head, helping to continue this negative atmosphere which will spread like wildfire over the internet and follow into the ground when we can get back in, will be actively working against us.

Alternatively, blindly supporting no matter what poo gets thrown our way is just as toxic and detrimental to the long-term future of the club.

Let's just find someone else to support.

10 minutes ago, Brammie Steve said:

Our under 21s could beat Villa's under 21s all day long!

 

Except our U21s are now our First team.