BramcoteRam84

A competitive league one outfit second in the league. Some performances this season with ultra aggressive pressing and free flowing football when allowed to. The standard of the league is pretty poor and the matches can be difficult to watch. It’s a league problem. We need to get out of this league. The point I was making in the post you refer to is not once have I seen this Warne team persistently play aimless long ball and the ball being in the air more than on the ground. To say so is just untrue and a lazy stereotype based on Warne’s perceived style at Rotherham. Recent games I’ve seen centre halves split and Vickers playing the ball out to the side of the box then into midfield. That’s not lumping it.

Now that I would love to see!! Fat man would be smashing in the big scoreboard in corner if that happened

This is typical from the FA. Completely useless no bottle or backbone, just want a yes man. However fortunately Southgate is a man of principle and dignity. He has said before he doesn’t want to overstay his welcome and again he was playing down staying on by saying let’s see how we get on. If we don’t win the Euros I think he’d move on of his own accord. He’s done an outstanding job for England, thought we were unlucky in Qatar v France if we’d won that (and could’ve gone either way and we were arguably the better side that evening) we could have gone on to win it. It was right he was given the Euros given it was a short turnaround of only 18 months from World Cup. He needs to win the Euros now, this team is ready (injuries permitting) and if he does then he should be given the option to take us to the World Cup if he wants it.

Clearly you don’t watch Derby then when you come to that conclusion about us aimlessly lumping it forward. I keep looking for this long ball game Warne supposedly plays and in 18 months or so of him being here. Haven’t seen it.

55 mins until an individual error for a goal gave them hope followed by a quick equaliser, caused by more individual errors, a game we were in complete control of. Let them back in but found a way to get the win.

Limits what we can do against the 25% of teams we’re battling with for promotion though doesn’t it. And a fair chunk of budget still made up of Liam signings. More freedom to wheel and deal pay transfer fees etc would enable us to get the young talents from league 1 and below. Blackett-Taylor is the only one we’ve managed so far, Posh’s team is stacked with them, and both Bolton and Pompey are spending cash outbidding us for players.

Solid. Competitive against teams in this league, to a standard that is very good compared with teams in this league. Don’t know what else you can expect, I haven’t seen us battered by anyone except Blackpool in the League Cup. We have the best goal difference in the league, the second highest scorers, best or 2nd best defensive record. You can throw Blackpool (A) Posh (A), Northampton (H), Exeter (H) Lincoln (H) Orient (A) Wigan (A) Burton (H) for 55 mins onto the good performance list.

With comfortably the lowest budget in the league each time. Got them looking reasonable before we took him, they stayed up in some way due to the wins he got early season, they’re now marooned at the bottom their normal position in the championship. I’ve said I’m not convinced he’s the man to take us forward in the championship but in case we need reminding - we’re not in the championship are we?

For 55 mins against Burton which wasn’t that long ago. Second half today at times, Cheltenham was poor, but teams are making it difficult. The performances in November and December were probably the best home and away. Barnsley stands out, front foot pressing good football. That somewhere down the line will probably be when we’re in the championship, if we’re midtable bottom half or fighting relegation and the football is boring then entertainment factor becomes more relevant. Remember the GSE times under Nige when crowds dropped although at home we weren’t too bad under him and we beat the red dogs a few times.

Anyone driven away from a promotion campaign to try and get out of a god awful league where every team sees you as a cup final and make everything a scrap, to be honest we’re better off without them. Seen enough decent performances and glimpses of us trying to play but lots of teams try to stop us playing. The Paul Warne style of play thing is a myth down to peoples perception of his time at Rotherham from those who never wanted him here. Apparently the ball is in the sky more than on the ground at Derby these days with Paul Warne in charge. Not what I’ve seen. It isn’t Steve McClaren football, nowhere near, but we’re in league 1 still under restrictions, people need to stop comparing us to what we used to be. Yes we want to get back there and is he the man to do it, Jury is definitely out. In my mind it is bonkers we are having these debates on Warne when we’re second!! Just bonkers.

Yes it’s means he has pedigree at this level, has us right in the mix in a wide open season with us being second, you’d think we were midtable bottom half by some of the comments. If he doesn’t get us up this season then questions should be asked. The comments are the same every week and they are lazy. Banging on about style of play even when in some games we’ve actually played good football. I was all set for him to go after that Stevenage defeat and said he needed an amazing run to keep in the job, he’s had that run and put us right in the mix. I don’t understand those who literally wait for us to drop points (some even don’t wait for that) to spout the same old crap. There are two teams in any game and Shrewsbury made that a right royal scrap and downright ugly, not Warne’s tactics IMO. I think he will get us up. I think he should get us up, his real test is how competitive can we be with him in the championship and on that I’m not convinced. But while he’s here I’ll continue to back him until it becomes abundantly clear we need a change and right now with us second in the league no one can say we need a change while keeping a straight face.

Just a reminder for some people. Paul Warne has won automatic promotion from this league twice. But if we fail autos, Paul Warne has also won a playoff final in this league. He also won the EFL trophy which I think means he has 100% record in Wembley finals. Just for those saying he doesn’t have the tactics to win the big games.

With a £16m wage bill and about £8m transfer spend - in league 1. Yes no wonder Ipswich did amazing things last season. Their budget was way bigger than everyone. What they’re doing this season though against those championship budgets is exceptional.

Drop points we have the usual Warne pile on from the same individuals talking about his tactics. Credit to Shrewsbury in their cup final, they made every ball a scrap and I’m impressed they managed that intensity for the whole game. We tried to play and were consistently stopped from doing so, then forced it at times and turned the ball over too regularly and easily. The switch to the back 4 second half helped we gained more control and in a game of few chances we created enough to win but didn’t get that second goal, a few if onlys Wilson hitting the bar, Collo in first half from the ward set piece was an inch wide at the most, a couple of dubious offsides and penalty shouts. Their goal came from nothing, i need to see it back but Wilson and Mendez lose the ball trying to be too intricate (Nyambe would’ve possibly made a difference in that situation), but then their player has mishit the pull back causing Sibley to slide past the ball and it’s landed perfectly for him to finish it. Real shame thought Wilson had won it and there definitely should’ve been more than 6 minutes added time. One of those games, we didn’t lose and are still second it’s just annoying that we couldn’t capitalise on our rivals slipping up. This is going to be one close promotion race. Right to the wire. On the fans today, with the exception of the fans in the North Stand who flooded the exits when Shrewsbury equalised, I thought they were immense. South stand trying to get Paul Warne’s barmy army going all first half, the stadium came alive second half and were with the team (the majority) right to the end. Show frustration at final whistle by all means but the lads need that support every game now.

Yet same Lino allowed their player early in the second half who was clearly offside to run through and nearly score!! Consistency. The officials did not help us today, we should’ve had a pen, they should’ve been down to 10 men, but then to counter that if Hourihane had been sent off for that tackle wouldve had no complaints, definite red for me.

Well I hope tomorrow and for the remaining games the crowd and stay with the team whatever happens. It’s not about the performances now (although we would like one), it’s about getting over the line by hook or by crook. Boo at the end of the game and whinge and whine on here if it’s s*** but back the lads during the game.

Derby 2 Shrewsbury 0 - Hourihane FRGS

He’s taking dodging FFP to extremes isn’t he?

His dad tweeted well done, now keep them in the top two, no pressure!!

Well I had a cracking day out in Rome yesterday. Awesome weather, great company beer was flowing and the rugby was ok. Despite not playing great do think we have some talent coming through. I was a bit hacked off giving them a bonus point late on (great try from an Italian perspective) but consoled by Mendez’s winner at the valley. England winning, Derby winning, Wales losing perfect weekend.

I think Warne’s update this afternoon also to some degree validates Big Trav’s credentials as an ITK (for those who feel it needs validating personally I appreciate the info he posts). He was on here yesterday mentioning a medical pencilled in for a name (that wasn’t Lee Gregory or Michael Smith), clearly we did have someone the club had kept under wraps lined up and it didn’t happen. Maybe one day BT will reveal the player 😉. Keep on posting what you know and what you can BT.

It may not be the owners intent you’re right, but Warne will have a much bigger chunk of budget to play with this summer if he wants with those players I mention out of contract

His injury record does make me question this one but he’s done a job for him in the past. I actually thought he was starting to look really good then he gets injured. We need him to make a contribution now and if he stays fit (my tongue in cheek opinions aside) at this level he can do a decent job. We need him to in the run in

He’s made a statement about budget. Potentially it’s naive as clearly while there is a budget it’s restrictive, as demonstrated by the CBT transfer. At least in terms of transfer fees we can’t go and get the young talents our rivals are able to sign. And we can’t escape a fair chunk of our “competitive” budget is used up by players not signed by Warne, and either past it in the eyes of some (Hourihane) or surplus to requirements currently (Smith)

Don’t disagree with some of your points, yes Collo staying fit is even more important now. But think you’re giving the other teams too much credit, 8th if we’re lucky when we’re 10 points ahead of Blackpool currently and there is a chasm of difference between us and 9th think it’s an overly pessimistic take from you personally. When we’ve been bad we’ve been clinical for the most part and that’s what will get us in the playoffs at least.