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I had a quick look at that earlier hoping for better results, although you've got to remember that a shot isn't necessarily a chance and I can't really remember him missing loads of good chances https://fbref.com/en/comps/15/shooting/League-One-Stats (no. 54)

I do have to wonder whether this may be influencing Sheff Weds mindset, at least a little bit https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11688/12299179/derby-3-3-sheffield-wednesday-wayne-rooneys-side-avoid-relegation-after-incredible-final-day

He's so good he's already got a tactic named in his honour, the Low Block.

What, ever? Someone go and warm up that Administration thread 😢

Worse still, some would welcome him back! 🤯 That said, there's not really anything for him to ruin this time!

He does talk of being good friends with NML so perhaps we can have a new chant incorporating aspects of his, 2 players 1 chant.

What he does in his private life is no concern of mine! I haven't listened to the interview, and my previous posts on the topic suggest I think he's a promising signing who may well provide something we're lacking. The above post was just a bit of fun.

I mean... It's not exactly twisting it when it comes from the horse's mouth "I’d describe myself as a box-to-box midfielder" For the uninitiated, that's what we in the business call a "quote" (Even if it is 8 years old) 😅

George Thorne vibes. The only player never to return from a broken leg because of a random bone infection.

Well yeah but I was giving Warne the benefit of doubt... then again I did that when we signed Fornah!

Perhaps, and I'd rather we didn't make such mistakes in the first place, but admitting an error and making an attempt to correct it is better than just buggering on anyway. Not that there's any real indication Fornah is going anywhere.

Anyway, if we sign this lad (which I have no doubt we will) then it goes some way to alleviating people's concerns about how he sees the team working better as a unit, which is what most people critical of Warne do actually want from him. Awareness, learning, improvement. It's just that we haven't seen anywhere near enough of it.

Gotta keep up the idea that anyone critical of Warne for any reason whatsoever is an idiot though, and rubbish any and all notions that he's actually responsible for any of the negatives we see.

Must have been a really impressive 5 games! Glad to see his stats have been mega-impressive this season in the league above though, limited as his appearances have been.

Typically if O'Rourke says something is agreed and will happen, it happens? Thank the lord he sounds like a proper DM, although that's no guarantee he'll be used as one.

Whichever system we play we have the same issue though - the balance of the signings was haphazard, some don't suit the role they've been given and we're paying high wages for backups, or rotation players. With 'limited' resources , can we afford to carry a squad with enough players to play these 2 formations with everyone getting adequate game time?

The point isn't whether they're decent players though, it's that they were bought for a system we dropped after a few games and some of them represent round pegs in square holes (or is the other way round? I can never remember) Ward brought as a RWB, sure but then we stopped playing a RWB and he's not a good enough defender to play RB and he's not as good as NML so won't play RW... and Wilson is preferred there anyway. Elder bought as a LWB but he's not a LWB Bradley is a good CB and has played in a 3 but he's clearly unsuited to the way we played it at the start of the season. Fornah doesn't really have a position, so how is he going to develop toward and be comfortable in any particular role? We'll wait and see if CBT offers us much more than Barkhuizen, we're not sure how Warne will be askng hm to play yet tbf, hopefully we actually bother to give him the ball in the next match to find out! Nelson, Bradley AND Niambe brought in on top of Cashin and Forsyth as options in a 3CB system? Who's 1st choice RCB? It would be one one of Nelson or Nyambe, which means one of those players (likely two of our higher earners) missing out. With 3 at the back NML has to play centrally, so in competition with Collins, Washington, Waghorn AND TJJ - 5 players for 2 positions? "We can only do what we can do" but "with hardly any money" we seemed rather willing to overstack certain positions with players on high wages who may not get as many minutes as the outlay would justify.

Thanks for the carification. Fun or not gifs do have a certain power to perpetuate a notion / thought or feeling more than words, and must be wielded responsibly! 😄😉 edit: And yeah, I agree that all League One teams have their deficiencies, but IMO with our squad we should have fewer than most, and surely the point of hiring a promotion expert is that they know how to further cover these deficiences? Rather than doing that, our manager exposes them.

...except now all fans unhappy with the quality of our play are going to be branded with this idea that they're delusional and expect McClaren-esque football, which quite frankly is a load of b******* for the most part.

The thanks you get for helping people, hey 🤣

Someone criticised him in another thread for playing too deep recently, standing too close to the centre backs and waving his arms around telling others what to do (for reference, this is not a quote) when a few games ago / earlier in the season he was getting about the pitch more. I'm not sure it crossed their mind that maybe, 25+ games into a season where he's being asked to cover so much of the midfield, it might be because he needs a rest? Anyway, for reference - or really just because I quite like like the way these things look - here's CH's season heatmap. Busy boy.

Well done, you've successfully shown me evidence of someone either, at best, paraphrasing what the manager has said, or at worst making a statement based on conjecture - albeit one with plenty of evidence that points toward it being, if not the truth, not far from it. Absolutely nowhere is there a quote attributed to the manager. I'm not defending anyone. As I said earlier, I think the discussion had gone awry because things were phrased badly, and there were two posters stubbornly locked into a 'You show me...' "No, YOU show me..' stalemate, which I sought to resolve by providing some evidence of what has actually been said. I just think your attitude toward others and ceasless need to treat this place like a court of law are utterly ridiculous, and that's not just limited to this thread. The irony of you being 'calling out' people for making things up to bash another with isn't lost on me.

Nobody attributed a quote to him, unless you can point me to the post where someone has claimed Warne has actually used the phrase "I'm not interested in midfield". At worst what's happened in this instance is the use of conjecture, not hyperbole. The evidence may be incomplete, but if you take what he did say, correlate it with his actions and study how the team performas then it's hardly the world's mmost 'out there' conclusion to come to. And yes, you very much were banging on about it, repeating the same question multiple times to prove a point that nobody had actually argued against.

We spent the last couple of months of one season playing, and spent all summer and pre-season preparing and signing players for one system, but when it came to playing competitive games we were pretty much forced (the alternative doesn't bear thinking about) to change the system because of a combination of injuries and a number of the players, both new signings and existing players, looking terribly uncomfortable playing it. ...and we're supposed to look at this and turn it into praise for the manager's adaptability? Can someone pass me the Valium because that just ain't gonna come naturally!

Like someone who understands how humans being speak, understands what the word paraphrasing means and like someone who actually wanted to discuss the topic at hand in a civilised manner, rather than like someone who wants to hold everyone to weirdly exacting standards like you're a prosecutor grilling a witness and need to find a way of proving them wrong? Essentially it boils down to the original post saying "he's said so" instead of "he's said as much", which naturally you've jumped on. All the context has been explained to you, yet you're still banging on about midfielders he's using in an advanced / attacking role.