smiffy Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 MMM right, George Best was great, Kevin Hector was great, Denis Law was great, Bobby Charlton was great Dave Mackay was etc............................, catch my drift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiffy Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Zac was not a great player when Tim Ward signed him from Bradford Park Avenue but he became a great player in Brian Cloughs/Dave Mackays Rams. Nah he only scord 46 goals in one season, He was a great player when he came, you could tell the first game, when he came to Derby he had someone good enough to play with him, meaning one Mr A Durban, that was well before Clough, ever came near Derby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-JW- Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 compared with players in our team and our league he is a great player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Éire Ram Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 About time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastKentRam Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Not sure what it is with Hendrick, he just doesnt seem to have that wow factor players like Barnes (and look where he's ended up) and Huddlestone had at his age. Think he'll make a tidy Championship/League 1 midfielder but that's about it. Obviously got improvement left in him, but i'll be surprised if he moves on to a bigger club than us and makes it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiffy Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Nah he only scord 44 goals in one season, He was a great player when he came, you could tell the first game, when he came to Derby he had someone good enough to play with him, meaning one Mr A Durban, that was well before Clough, ever came near Derby. Sos only 44 in one season, think he is pretty high up on the list for scoring 100 fastest as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianm Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 3k a week for a 19 year old maybe good enough average Championship player. Thats the same as the average wage for FIVE nursing sisters, funny old game innit. Most people if they wanted could be a Nurse, most lads want to be a Pro Football player but only the very best get through the system. Yes of course they are paid too much but to compare them to Nurses is ludicrous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianm Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Not sure what it is with Hendrick, he just doesnt seem to have that wow factor players like Barnes (and look where he's ended up) and Huddlestone had at his age. Think he'll make a tidy Championship/League 1 midfielder but that's about it. Obviously got improvement left in him, but i'll be surprised if he moves on to a bigger club than us and makes it. Disagree with that he has more tools in the bag than either of those two you list. He has the talent to become an all-round Premier League Midfielder he has everything you need in a midfielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiffy Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Most people if they wanted could be a Nurse, most lads want to be a Pro Football player but only the very best get through the system. Yes of course they are paid too much but [size=5]to compare them to Nurses is ludicrous.[/size] Most footballers are thick, not too many of them would have the brains to be nurses, and anyway I said sisters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Disagree with that he has more tools in the bag than either of those two you list. He has the talent to become an all-round Premier League Midfielder he has everything you need in a midfielder. he won't be as good as huddlestone but he will do a lot better than barnes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 he won't be as good as huddlestone but he will do a lot better than barnes. totally agree. hopefully become about Lee Cattermole/David Dunn standard hopefully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Lee Cattermole is a fecking talentless thug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 I wish I was a pound behind him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich38 Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Think this boy is going to be quite special and i've seen a fair few years of football now. Has the raw ingredients already and I like his presence and poise on the ball. It cant be easy playing in this team where fragile confidence seems to be the general theme. Watching the game against hull recently i was impressed to see that Jeff was always eager to receive the ball, despite some poor passes and general woeful play by his teammates(Jamie Ward excepted). He will develop in to a good premiership player in my view - perhaps a Matt Holland type but I do think he is capable of more, perhaps a Carrick? Anyway football is all about opinions isn't it, I hope i'm proved right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Lee Cattermole is a fecking talentless thug. i was talking more successfulness than quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted December 8, 2011 Author Share Posted December 8, 2011 Not sure what it is with Hendrick, he just doesnt seem to have that wow factor players like Barnes (and look where he's ended up) and Huddlestone had at his age. Think he'll make a tidy Championship/League 1 midfielder but that's about it. Obviously got improvement left in him, but i'll be surprised if he moves on to a bigger club than us and makes it. Wow factor Huddlestone had? don't get me wrong, he was and is a good/great player but he doesn't have a wow factor in 99 games he didn't score a single goal! He was a tidy consistent player, Jeff is a talented footballer when he has the ball to feet he can switch and dictate play, however with many young players he phases in and out of games, he doesn't have the wow Barnes has, and he doesn't have the consistency Huddlestone had... but he is definitely somewhere in between and certainly better than Bannan when he was here, by a long way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastKentRam Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Wow factor Huddlestone had? don't get me wrong, he was and is a good/great player but he doesn't have a wow factor in 99 games he didn't score a single goal! He was a tidy consistent player, Jeff is a talented footballer when he has the ball to feet he can switch and dictate play, however with many young players he phases in and out of games, he doesn't have the wow Barnes has, and he doesn't have the consistency Huddlestone had... but he is definitely somewhere in between and certainly better than Bannan when he was here, by a long way! Huddlestone's first touch and the way he can hit a football is incredible, one of the best passers of a ball around and it showed when he was at us. Huddlestone has got more ability in his little toe than Hendrick will ever have. Think everyone is massively over rating Hendrick here, he's played about 15 first team games in a poor side and people are already saying he'll be a Premiership footballer. He's tidy on the ball but nothing more than that, how many times does our midfield get over run and bossed by the oppo? Practically every game, cos we havent got anyone that can dictate the game, Hendrick certainly cant and if he's to become a top player he'll need to learn how to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastKentRam Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Disagree with that he has more tools in the bag than either of those two you list. He has the talent to become an all-round Premier League Midfielder he has everything you need in a midfielder. I'll make a £50 right now, sticky this quote/thread, that Hendrick will never reach the heights that Huddlestone has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted December 9, 2011 Author Share Posted December 9, 2011 Huddlestone's first touch and the way he can hit a football is incredible, one of the best passers of a ball around and it showed when he was at us. Huddlestone has got more ability in his little toe than Hendrick will ever have. Think everyone is massively over rating Hendrick here, he's played about 15 first team games in a poor side and people are already saying he'll be a Premiership footballer. He's tidy on the ball but nothing more than that, how many times does our midfield get over run and bossed by the oppo? Practically every game, cos we havent got anyone that can dictate the game, Hendrick certainly cant and if he's to become a top player he'll need to learn how to. Not really, I rated huddlestone a lot when he was here but his first touch and passing was nothing special, I think the way he has gone has really tainted everyones view of what he was like here, I remember him being consistently good and was good at winning the ball and could play either centre half or centre midfield and do a good job, but he never excelled here IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RebelScum Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Now then m8 was he called the King or Zac because i cant seem to find a reference to Zac but im sure he was called that . Point im making is when the King came to Derby he was 22 Jeff is 19 and needs time . He isnt a great player like say Puskas or Platini but he is great for the Rams ... All about standard of football and we are tier 2 at best. He was called 'King Zac' after a character in a tv program that was showing at the time... just saying is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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