trekkie_ram Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 I'd be surprised if people genuinely thought that neutrals should consider our derby bigger than others. The comment that we aren't even in the top 10 in England got me thinking, I was convinced we should be, but quickly rattled off the following rivalries that are definitely higher profile than ours: Man Utd/Liverpool - for me the undisputed #1, and the first non-DCFC game I look for Man Utd/Man City Liverpool/Everton Arsenal/Tottenham Newcastle/Sunderland And some that are at least similar in size Aston Villa/Birmingham Chelsea/QPR Sheffield Utd/Wed Wolves/WBA Southampton/Portsmouth Ipswich/Norwich Dirty Leeds/Rest of the World Then smaller fanbases, but arguably fiercer rivalries Bristol City/Cardiff Swansea/Cardiff WHU/Millwall Blackburn/Burnley Preston/Blackpool MK Dons/Wimbledon - I can see that being violent when it happens Cardiff/Swansea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerbyRam! Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Add Huddersfield/Leeds to that rivalry list they may not be big but i can guarntee at least a small amount of violence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowkesy Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Because our rivalry didn't really kick off until Clough went there in the 70s? I don't think it even started then.This seems to be a comparitively newish 'rivalry'.As one of the 'old uns' I really couldn't be arsed with Forest they are an irrelevance.They get mentioned sometimes more than our own team on our own boards.I can't recall anything approaching serious rivalry as long ago as that. Leeds for me are THE scumbags,and always will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowkesy Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Trekkie,I would dispute the Man U/ ManC game I think Man U /Liverpool is fiercer.Having been to both on more than one occasion:unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsdubs Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Man Utd vs Liverpool is the biggest, not the fiercist but they are the benchmark as far as British clubs go. Us and florist would be massive if we actually both competed for trophies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 All sorts of historical baggage also can contribute way outside of football. Soton vs Pompey gets a bit tasty - and the rivalry extends more or less across the whole indigenous population of each city. They really do not like each other. One of the reasons given to me by some particularly ancient local was that it was common practice up until around 1910 for Southampton men (typically merchant seamen) to be literally press-ganged in the city pubs by Portsmouth based gangs employed by the Royal Navy to "recruit". our rivalry with Nottingham is much more contained around the football clubs. Has to be. We don't have as many guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smalley Ram Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 All sorts of historical baggage also can contribute way outside of football. Soton vs Pompey gets a bit tasty - and the rivalry extends more or less across the whole indigenous population of each city. They really do not like each other. One of the reasons given to me by some particularly ancient local was that it was common practice up until around 1910 for Southampton men (typically merchant seamen) to be literally press-ganged in the city pubs by Portsmouth based gangs employed by the Royal Navy to "recruit". our rivalry with Nottingham is much more contained around the football clubs. Has to be. We don't have as many guns. There is also the fact that when the dock workers of Portsmouth went on strike (don't know when) they brought in dockers from Southampton and this is why Pompey call Southampton fans "Scummers". I know a pompey fan and the level of passionate hatred he has for Southampton is quite breathtaking ( a bit like me and Stoke but I'm probably on my own with that one) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinkletoes Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Fu@K forest filth!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 There is also the fact that when the dock workers of Portsmouth went on strike (don't know when) they brought in dockers from Southampton and this is why Pompey call Southampton fans "Scummers". I know a pompey fan and the level of passionate hatred he has for Southampton is quite breathtaking ( a bit like me and Stoke but I'm probably on my own with that one) Yer not on yer own SR.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredbear73 Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 I don't think it even started then.This seems to be a comparitively newish 'rivalry'.As one of the 'old uns' I really couldn't be arsed with Forest they are an irrelevance.They get mentioned sometimes more than our own team on our own boards.I can't recall anything approaching serious rivalry as long ago as that. Leeds for me are THE scumbags,and always will be. First fixture i look for.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 The team I hate more than any other is Corby Town; the only club in the country I have a reason to hate. But we're unlikely to ever have to play them so... I love Forest for the passion in the games, but I don't really have any genuine reason to hate them as such. I mean, yeah, their fans annoy the hell out of me - but they're trying to. Our petty insults torwards them are pathetic really as well half the time, it's not that good a local rivalry if you want hatred. It's not the Sheffield derby or the Manchester derby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asanovic Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 The team I hate more than any other is Corby Town; the only club in the country I have a reason to hate. But we're unlikely to ever have to play them so... I love Forest for the passion in the games, but I don't really have any genuine reason to hate them as such. I mean, yeah, their fans annoy the hell out of me - but they're trying to. Our petty insults torwards them are pathetic really as well half the time, it's not that good a local rivalry if you want hatred. It's not the Sheffield derby or the Manchester derby. Really? I feel alot of hatred when we play them. It feels bigger than the Sheffield derby or Manchester derby to me, but that's what I was saying earlier - I don't think a derby is defined by it's history (but as it goes, we've got a shedload of it), or the amount of titles/cups/honours won between the two (not so many), but more about how it makes a supporter feel. And I really hate them. I also think they're absolutely classless (as per the disabled supporters ticket farce), and they basically live off the Clough era. Which, as someone who wasn't around at that time, I don't think we do that much. A statue here and a song there, but honestly, re-releasing the green Umbro jumper?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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