RamNut Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 3 hours ago, bimmerman said: To be fair. Cocu got dealt a bad hand. Has lost pretty much the spine of the team and had no real time to replace it. He's not at fault in my eyes I think it’s 50/50 the squad is full of holes, and booze-gate gave him huge problems. But I also think he has lost credibility with the players with all his tinkering. He isn’t a motivator so he has to be brilliant tactically. He looks uncomfortable right now. No-one said it would be easy Phillip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram2508 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Could it be the players aren't happy with keoghs treatment and are protesting by under performing. I'm basing this on nothing and is just an idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paese Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Steve How Hard? said: I agree whilst also acknowledging he has made some mistakes and at times baffling decisions but he needs to be given time to assemble the strongest side he can. We can't keep using sticking plasters to heal something that is quite clearly broken. At some point we are gonna have to feel the pain of a proper healing process. Completely agree. Cocu didn't have a full pre-season or have much opportunity to sign anyone that could suit how he's trying to play. And so is left with half the side Lampard had (which still only just finished 6th) in league he knew very little about. I just think sometimes we have very short sighted fans, which isn't exclusive to Derby. If this time next year there's no improvement we should discuss replacements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 10 hours ago, RamNut said: I think we should approach Chelsea and ask for permission to speak to Frank. Just for a chat like..... how's the wife and kids? Is the weather OK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 27 minutes ago, ram2508 said: Could it be the players aren't happy with keoghs treatment and are protesting by under performing. I'm basing this on nothing and is just an idea. No I don't think so. Actually our squad is very average without Mount, Wilson and Tomori. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 32 minutes ago, ram2508 said: Could it be the players aren't happy with keoghs treatment and are protesting by under performing. I'm basing this on nothing and is just an idea. Or not happy that Cocu has told them that "come January, you lot are gone". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brammie Steve Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 When you think that we had two lads playing for us last season who are set to be regulars for England and a manager who was Captain of England and is now in one of the most lucrative management posts in the country. To say nowt of a former England goalie. They were unable to gain promotion and five teams in this division finished above them in May. We have since lost our captain in mysterious circumstances and two of the players who are still here have serious offences to answer. I think the whole set up is a nightmare. You couldn't dream it up as a fictional plot...... Unless your name were Mary Westmacott AKA Mrs A Christie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyPowell Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Brummie Steve said: When you think that we had two lads playing for us last season who are set to be regulars for England and a manager who was Captain of England and is now in one of the most lucrative management posts in the country. To say nowt of a former England goalie. They were unable to gain promotion and five teams in this division finished above them in May. We have since lost our captain in mysterious circumstances and two of the players who are still here have serious offences to answer. I think the whole set up is a nightmare. You couldn't dream it up as a fictional plot...... Unless your name were Mary Westmacott AKA Mrs A Christie! you missed out Wilson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brammie Steve Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 9 hours ago, TommyPowell said: you missed out Wilson All the best whodunnits have red herrings flying in the f*r*st!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheresOnlyWanChope Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 On 15/12/2019 at 21:16, RamNut said: I think it’s 50/50 the squad is full of holes, and booze-gate gave him huge problems. But I also think he has lost credibility with the players with all his tinkering. He isn’t a motivator so he has to be brilliant tactically. He looks uncomfortable right now. No-one said it would be easy Phillip. I would argue tinkering has been needed due to injuries and the lack of any side looking that strong this season. My main issue was the tinkering in the cup butI have a problem with ay manager that fields weakened sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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