SaintRam Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, toddy said: No, but we do have a winger who is in the top 10. Martin cannot even make the top 20, that is how good he actually has become. I will grant you he is consistent, Yep consistently scoring less goals each season since 2013......not sure how the Martinites still think he is the bees knees. In fairness to Chris he's only started 25 games, and been a sub in an extra 4. This is more due to the off the field stuff than his form too, based on chatter from Fulham fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 1 hour ago, toddy said: And still not even in the championships top 20 goals scorers this season......... And your point is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 13 minutes ago, toddy said: No, but we do have a winger who is in the top 10. Martin cannot even make the top 20, that is how good he actually has become. I will grant you he is consistent, Yep consistently scoring less goals each season since 2013......not sure how the Martinites still think he is the bees knees. Last season 3 players in the league went above 20 goals, the season before it was 6, the season before it was 8... Teams are less and less reliant on a single striker, the classic number 9 from years gone by, and more and more the goals are spread amongst the team - Which you'd expect with more teams playing 3 up front, or (as we are now) almost 4 up front... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddy Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 10 minutes ago, Derby_EnglandLoyal said: And your point is? He is overrated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 1 hour ago, toddy said: And still not even in the championships top 20 goals scorers this season......... Yet in terms of goals he's in the top 10. 1. Wood - 24 2 - Gayle - 22 3 - Murray, Abraham - 21 4 - Kodija - 19 5 - Jerome, Hogan - 15 6 - Kermorgant - 14 7 - Knockaert, Ince, Winnall - 13 8 - Vibe - 12 9 - Ritchie, Forestieri, Baldock, Graham, Hemed, Zohore, Jutkiewicz, Kachunga - 11 10 - Martin, Costa, Robinson, Assombalonga, Ward, Edwards, Irvine, Hugill, Wells, Gallagher - 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddy Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 7 minutes ago, cheron85 said: Last season 3 players in the league went above 20 goals, the season before it was 6, the season before it was 8... Teams are less and less reliant on a single striker, the classic number 9 from years gone by, and more and more the goals are spread amongst the team - Which you'd expect with more teams playing 3 up front, or (as we are now) almost 4 up front... Not even mentioned the number of goals he has scored this season, the 20 was referring to the top 20 current goalscorers in the championship this season - which Martin is not in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, toddy said: He is underrated! FTFY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 1 minute ago, toddy said: Not even mentioned the number of goals he has scored this season, the 20 was referring to the top 20 current goalscorers in the championship this season - which Martin is not in! See what @David put so Martin actually in top ten lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddy Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 5 minutes ago, David said: Yet in terms of goals he's in the top 10. 1. Wood - 24 2 - Gayle - 22 3 - Murray, Abraham - 21 4 - Kodija - 19 5 - Jerome, Hogan - 15 6 - Kermorgant - 14 7 - Knockaert, Ince, Winnall - 13 8 - Vibe - 12 9 - Ritchie, Forestieri, Baldock, Graham, Hemed, Zohore, Jutkiewicz, Kachunga - 11 10 - Martin, Costa, Robinson, Assombalonga, Ward, Edwards, Irvine, Hugill, Wells, Gallagher - 10 Please recount the number of strikers above Martin. You might find there are 20 strikers that have scored more goals than Martin this season. Hence why Martin is not in the top 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddy Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 1 minute ago, Derby_EnglandLoyal said: See what @David put so Martin actually in top ten lol. See above - you may need your abacas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 On 08/03/2017 at 11:01, toddy said: Not many players manage to play in every game during a season because of injuries/sub etc - so the standard measure of a players goals has always been total scored at the end of a season. Season over yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Not even in the top twenty, one goal off joint 13th… brilliant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, Derby_EnglandLoyal said: See what @David put so Martin actually in top ten lol. To be fair he is actually joint 21st in goal scorers, but I do agree with both you and David in that he had scored the 10th most goals ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, David said: Yet in terms of goals he's in the top 10. 1. Wood - 24 2 - Gayle - 22 =3 - Murray, Abraham - 21 5 - Kodija - 19 =6 - Jerome, Hogan - 15 8 - Kermorgant - 14 =9 - Knockaert, Ince, Winnall - 13 12 - Vibe - 12 =13 - Ritchie, Forestieri, Baldock, Graham, Hemed, Zohore, Jutkiewicz, Kachunga - 11 =21 - Martin, Costa, Robinson, Assombalonga, Ward, Edwards, Irvine, Hugill, Wells, Gallagher - 10 FTFY In fairness to @toddy - while I disagree entirely with what he thinks it says about Martin (cos Martin's played less than most if not every player there) - he's right to say Martin's outside the top 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, toddy said: Not even mentioned the number of goals he has scored this season, the 20 was referring to the top 20 current goalscorers in the championship this season - which Martin is not in! Those are some powerful blinkers you have there toddy! Did you even read my post before responding to apparently a completely different point? YOY we're seeing an overall trend that goals are more spread around the team - Which makes sense as over the last 10-15 years we've moved from a more traditional 4-4-2 to most teams playing with 3/4 goalscorers in the team - A lot fewer teams have only a single goal threat - Leeds seem to be the exception this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 1 minute ago, SaintRam said: FTFY In fairness to @toddy - while I disagree entirely with what he thinks it says about Martin (cos Martin's played less than most if not every player there) - he's right to say Martin's outside the top 20. And I'm right in saying he's in the top 10 for goals scored this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddy Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Just now, cannable said: Not even in the top twenty, one goal off joint 13th… brilliant Now many strikers have scored more goals than Martin this season.......20! Bloody hell 20 ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, toddy said: Please recount the number of strikers above Martin. You might find there are 20 strikers that have scored more goals than Martin this season. Hence why Martin is not in the top 20. Since when was where you sit on the chart of scorers the only metric by which we measure a player? He has scored 10 goals and given the amount of games he has played that is a good return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 1 minute ago, toddy said: Now many strikers have scored more goals than Martin this season.......20! Bloody hell 20 ! Doesn't matter tho, not the end of the season Toddy. Your words. On 08/03/2017 at 11:01, toddy said: Not many players manage to play in every game during a season because of injuries/sub etc - so the standard measure of a players goals has always been total scored at the end of a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 1 minute ago, toddy said: Now many strikers have scored more goals than Martin this season.......20! Bloody hell 20 ! context ˈkɒntɛkst/ noun the circumstances that form the setting for an event, statement, or idea, and in terms of which it can be fully understood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.