Curtains Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11696/10160929/kevin-phillips-stays-to-assist-new-derby-interim-boss-darren-wassall Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/21811-kp-stays-to-help-interim-boss-wassall-sky-sports-understand/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Shame. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/21811-kp-stays-to-help-interim-boss-wassall-sky-sports-understand/#findComment-963366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
drgoodspeak Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 If only we'd had a recognised left back to come in when Forsyth was injured, it might all have been different..... "He spent £21.5m on players but remember, the club sanctioned those sales. He has had problems with injuries and with Craig Forsyth out for the season, he had not had a recognised left-back. " Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/21811-kp-stays-to-help-interim-boss-wassall-sky-sports-understand/#findComment-963367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsdubs Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Glad KP is staying. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/21811-kp-stays-to-help-interim-boss-wassall-sky-sports-understand/#findComment-963372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 5 minutes ago, drgoodspeak said: If only we'd had a recognised left back to come in when Forsyth was injured, it might all have been different..... "He spent £21.5m on players but remember, the club sanctioned those sales. He has had problems with injuries and with Craig Forsyth out for the season, he had not had a recognised left-back. " Is Warnock not a recognised left back? Re KP - thank God his work in instructing the strikers how to score goals can continue, I don't know what we'd have done without that hatful of goals over the last month or so.... Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/21811-kp-stays-to-help-interim-boss-wassall-sky-sports-understand/#findComment-963376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsdubs Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Just now, StaffsRam said: Is Warnock not a recognised left back? Re KP - thank God his work in instructing the strikers how to score goals can continue, I don't know what we'd have done without that hatful of goals over the last month or so.... I know, we made so many quality chances for Martin and Bent as well. Definitely his fault. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/21811-kp-stays-to-help-interim-boss-wassall-sky-sports-understand/#findComment-963377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, tomsdubs said: I know, we made so many quality chances for Martin and Bent as well. Definitely his fault. Plenty of blame to go around, but let's not pretend that the strikers are immune. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/21811-kp-stays-to-help-interim-boss-wassall-sky-sports-understand/#findComment-963382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamLad1884 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Could be the start of a decent partnership hopefully, wassall and kp have a very good oppurtunity now to show they're ready to run the team Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/21811-kp-stays-to-help-interim-boss-wassall-sky-sports-understand/#findComment-963396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 18 minutes ago, drgoodspeak said: If only we'd had a recognised left back to come in when Forsyth was injured, it might all have been different..... "He spent £21.5m on players but remember, the club sanctioned those sales. He has had problems with injuries and with Craig Forsyth out for the season, he had not had a recognised left-back. " 11 minutes ago, StaffsRam said: Is Warnock not a recognised left back? Shows the quality of sports journos at Sky... Warnock not exactly an unknown is he? Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/21811-kp-stays-to-help-interim-boss-wassall-sky-sports-understand/#findComment-963397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsdubs Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 18 minutes ago, StaffsRam said: Plenty of blame to go around, but let's not pretend that the strikers are immune. They aren't immune but they had nothing, the whole style of play isolated them so bad is was ridiculous. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/21811-kp-stays-to-help-interim-boss-wassall-sky-sports-understand/#findComment-963414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Just now, tomsdubs said: They aren't immune but they had nothing, the whole style of play isolated them so bad is was ridiculous. They had little. Not nothing. Which I grant, is a damning indictment of our creative midfielders/wingers, and as I say, there's plenty of blame there as well. The most blame in fact. However, it also doesn't ordinarily take a vast amount of chances to be created in order for our strikers to convert. Bent, for one, has certainly had opportunities, and Hartlepool aside, hasn't taken them. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/21811-kp-stays-to-help-interim-boss-wassall-sky-sports-understand/#findComment-963423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Would have been nuts to get rid of KP as well. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/21811-kp-stays-to-help-interim-boss-wassall-sky-sports-understand/#findComment-963424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsdubs Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 9 minutes ago, StaffsRam said: They had little. Not nothing. Which I grant, is a damning indictment of our creative midfielders/wingers, and as I say, there's plenty of blame there as well. The most blame in fact. However, it also doesn't ordinarily take a vast amount of chances to be created in order for our strikers to convert. Bent, for one, has certainly had opportunities, and Hartlepool aside, hasn't taken them. I'm talking about chances created not games played. Two very different things. Preston at home, 16 shots 0 on target. How many good chances for Martin in that game did you see? Pull backs, good crosses, worked triangles around the box etc. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/21811-kp-stays-to-help-interim-boss-wassall-sky-sports-understand/#findComment-963442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 11 minutes ago, Daveo said: Would have been nuts to get rid of KP as well. I don't know why but I've come to expect better from you, Daveo Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/21811-kp-stays-to-help-interim-boss-wassall-sky-sports-understand/#findComment-963447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted February 9, 2016 Author Share Posted February 9, 2016 8 minutes ago, SaintRam said: I don't know why but I've come to expect better from you, Daveo He likes to make the Ashby de la zouch/Leicestershire connections to make Pearson feel at home already lol Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/21811-kp-stays-to-help-interim-boss-wassall-sky-sports-understand/#findComment-963450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 3 minutes ago, tomsdubs said: I'm talking about chances created not games played. Two very different things. Preston at home, 16 shots 0 on target. How many good chances for Martin in that game did you see? Pull backs, good crosses, worked triangles around the box etc. You're arguing a point that I've already agreed with - the midfield aren't giving them ammunition. Granted. How many times did Martin have the ball in their half? Hadn't used to be that he was 100% reliant on something putting it on a plate for him. Likewise, Bent, how many decent opportunities (goalscoring chances, not starts) has he had? Not a massive amount, but the one's he's had, he's not done much with. Many being similar chances to ones that he was scoring for fun last season. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/21811-kp-stays-to-help-interim-boss-wassall-sky-sports-understand/#findComment-963460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsdubs Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 5 minutes ago, StaffsRam said: You're arguing a point that I've already agreed with - the midfield aren't giving them ammunition. Granted. How many times did Martin have the ball in their half? Hadn't used to be that he was 100% reliant on something putting it on a plate for him. Likewise, Bent, how many decent opportunities (goalscoring chances, not starts) has he had? Not a massive amount, but the one's he's had, he's not done much with. Many being similar chances to ones that he was scoring for fun last season. I get where you're coming from but I just can't remember any chances thinking "Man, he should have buried that". Right now I can't think of any for either striker. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/21811-kp-stays-to-help-interim-boss-wassall-sky-sports-understand/#findComment-963469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 8 minutes ago, tomsdubs said: I get where you're coming from but I just can't remember any chances thinking "Man, he should have buried that". Right now I can't think of any for either striker. Just off the top of my head there are a couple of obvious ones for Bent - Fulham at home, hit the bar off of Ince's cut back, and Bristol City at home where he headed against the bar, unopposed, from 2 yards out after a great cross completely took out their keeper. Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/21811-kp-stays-to-help-interim-boss-wassall-sky-sports-understand/#findComment-963486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 1 hour ago, StaffsRam said: Is Warnock not a recognised left back? Re KP - thank God his work in instructing the strikers how to score goals can continue, I don't know what we'd have done without that hatful of goals over the last month or so.... I would be really disappointed if Kevin Phillips has been employed to tell professional footballers 'how to score goals' Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/21811-kp-stays-to-help-interim-boss-wassall-sky-sports-understand/#findComment-963491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: I would be really disappointed if Kevin Phillips has been employed to tell professional footballers 'how to score goals' Probably subscribes to the Michael Owen school of instruction - "Duh, well...you're best off aiming for the part of the goal where the Keeper isn't....duh...." Link to comment https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/21811-kp-stays-to-help-interim-boss-wassall-sky-sports-understand/#findComment-963502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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