Albert Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Consider me astounded, 508 to win in 155 or so overs.Just don't really see the point, unless there's a worry about rain tomorrow the extra 10 overs isn't likely to make a difference because if we bat 140 overs there's every chance we'll win the game. In reality we'll probably be cleaned up for under 300 though. I suppose they think a chase is so unlikely it's worth playing a bit safer in case of some unexpected rain."If we bat for 140 overs""bat for 140 overs""140 overs"Gives England something they can "chase", on an aging pitch, meaning there'll be the temptation to not just shut up shop. Clarke is an aggressive captain, and he'll believe that Australia can take this chance to make sure they wrap up the match and don't regret just batting on for no reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Well, that's the first 3 overs accounted for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovis aries Posted July 19, 2015 Author Share Posted July 19, 2015 "If we bat for 140 overs""bat for 140 overs""140 overs"Gives England something they can "chase", on an aging pitch, meaning there'll be the temptation to not just shut up shop. Clarke is an aggressive captain, and he'll believe that Australia can take this chance to make sure they wrap up the match and don't regret just batting on for no reason. I suppose its just the more runs you have to play with the more attacking fields you can set , they will probably have about eight men around the bat when Lyon comes on.PS Please excuse the extra header it happens every time I change my mind and do not make an intended post for some reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovis aries Posted July 19, 2015 Author Share Posted July 19, 2015 We also need Jimmy to step up the pace a bitIn his last four tests his figures are 9 - 471New Zealand 6-258Aussies 3-213Need a bit more from our best bowler . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daaave Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 "If we bat for 140 overs""bat for 140 overs""140 overs"Gives England something they can "chase", on an aging pitch, meaning there'll be the temptation to not just shut up shop. Clarke is an aggressive captain, and he'll believe that Australia can take this chance to make sure they wrap up the match and don't regret just batting on for no reason. I think acknowledging that England have very little chance of batting 140 overs kind of agrees with my point though. Lets say there's about 1/100 chance (my guess) Australia bowl us out in the last 10 overs of the game tomorrow, do you really think it's worth giving us a 1/15 chance (current odds) to win the game to cover that eventuality? I'd also argue that this England lineup is far less suited to setting up shop than just playing naturally and an unreachable target could have caused more psychological problems than a (theoretically) attainable one.It's likely all elementary anyway, but if Australia need those last 10 overs tomorrow I'll give Clarke the credit he's due. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daaave Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 I'll also give him some credit if the game is over tonight so I can watch the golf tomorrow. Maybe that's the real reason for the early declaration, fancies getting up to St Andrews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovis aries Posted July 19, 2015 Author Share Posted July 19, 2015 Good start after lunch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 The top order failing again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Terrible shot by Cook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daaave Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Mitchell ******* Marsh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Three Mitchell's, three wickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovis aries Posted July 19, 2015 Author Share Posted July 19, 2015 We are getting done by second string and occasional bowlers , this is rubbish . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daaave Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 We are getting done by second string and occasional bowlers , this is rubbish .Not sure I'd call Starc or Johnson second string or occasional. Marsh is a genuine all rounder too.It is rubbish though, I'll give you that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovis aries Posted July 19, 2015 Author Share Posted July 19, 2015 Not sure I'd call Starc or Johnson second string or occasional. Marsh is a genuine all rounder too.It is rubbish though, I'll give you that.Hazelwood would not be playing though if Harris had not retired , same with Marsh if Watson had any form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Hazelwood would not be playing though if Harris had not retired , same with Marsh if Watson had any formThey are the best available to the Australians currently. And, frankly, they've showed that they are too good for England in this match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovis aries Posted July 19, 2015 Author Share Posted July 19, 2015 They are the best available to the Australians currently. And, frankly, they've showed that they are too good for England in this match. Footitt 5-41 today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Footitt 5-41 today Against Northants... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Hazelwood would not be playing though if Harris had not retired , same with Marsh if Watson had any formI'd actually argue that Hazlewood is Australia's best bowler at the moment. If Harris were fit, it'd have been Starc sitting out, not Hazlewood. He's absolute class and has been showing it recently. As for Marsh, he is more than a batsmen who can bowl a bit, he's a genuine all rounder, and an better bowler than batsmen. Anyhow, dropped catch by Voges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovis aries Posted July 19, 2015 Author Share Posted July 19, 2015 I'd actually argue that Hazlewood is Australia's best bowler at the moment. If Harris were fit, it'd have been Starc sitting out, not Hazlewood. He's absolute class and has been showing it recently. As for Marsh, he is more than a batsmen who can bat a bit, he's a genuine all rounder, and an better bowler than batsmen. Anyhow, dropped catch by Voges. That's your opinion , but it is not what Ponting said during the first test . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 That's your opinion , but it is not what Ponting said during the first test ....well, it's what everyone in Australia is saying too, and I haven't heard Ponting's exact comments (nor can I find that) on that matter, nor am I sure of their relevance as he is not a selector to my knowledge. In any case, he is currently Australia's form bowler, and arguably best, and it's showing. Despite your opinion that he's second string, he's shown in the past year that he's clearly shown he's better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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