Boycie Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 What do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 In what position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted November 2, 2014 Author Share Posted November 2, 2014 Let me think? Get rid of Poundland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorne Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 We have a Butland on loan. Doesn't look as good as grant in a derby shirt. Butland will get played until Grant is back. Roos is a good keeper but I don't think and McClaren has made it clear he won't be playing regularly in first team games. If McClaren wanted Roos to play he wouldn't have signed Butland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I wouldn't be against it, great penalty save against Wigan and all that but Butland isn't quite the man for me. Going on what I've read on here his (kicking) distribution leaves a lot to be desired an' all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireRam Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 How did he play yesterday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 How did he play yesterday? Didn't make a mistake all game, was on the bench tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted November 2, 2014 Author Share Posted November 2, 2014 No idea, but we need a change. I think he mis judged a kick out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireRam Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Didn't make a mistake all game, was on the bench tho I meant Butland, just realised that wasn't initially clear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Tibbs Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Think it's unfortunate for Butland that the teams performances since his arrival have been below par. Saved us at Blackpool with some very good saves, then the penalty at home to Wigan. He's not done too bad at all, more the players infront of him underperforming than himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I meant Butland, just realised that wasn't initially clear Butland had practically nothing to do - apart from pick the ball out of the back of the net from two well-struck first-time efforts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-JW- Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Nah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peakram Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Think Brentford had 2 shots on target and scored 2 goals according to what I read, though don't think he could have saved them either (not seen them yet myself). Its more that his distribution is so bad its having a massive downturn effect on the teams performances, just giving away possession practically every time he has it in his hands. Nowadays its not enough just to be a shot stopper, you need to be good with your feet too in the modern game. Plus not sure he is entirely failsafe, Leeds fans were clamouring for him to be sent back I noticed last season looking at some of their forums, plus he made a rather soft error leading up to Wigan's winner last week (after admittedly pulling off some good saves before that). But from what I have seen of Roos his kicking is far better and have never failed to be impressed with him all round so far. That said I think Butland will play just because he is a "name" no matter how he does, which is a bit disappointing for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Stoke might also have a stipulation in the deal that he plays, of course that could be load of, but it wouldn't surprise me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireRam Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Butland had practically nothing to do - apart from pick the ball out of the back of the net from two well-struck first-time efforts. Thanks for the info. Why are people calling for him to be dropped then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peakram Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Thanks for the info. Why are people calling for him to be dropped then? See my above post! Do you not think terrible kicking has any relevance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peakram Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I wouldn't mind so much as had expected there to be a week of intensive training so he could get it right after the Wigan game but it just sounded like more of the same from folk who have reported back. So something seems to be going wrong, either he just wont ever be able to kick it, he's not able to kick within the small corridor that the management require him to (some were going 10 yards over Forsyths head in the Wigan game) or they just haven't bothered trying to put it right at all in the interim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireRam Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 See my above post! Do you not think terrible kicking has any relevance? Not if he's going to save more shots than Roos... Butland to me looks a far better shot stopper than Roos and that is more important than kicking. When have we ever scored from a long goal-kick anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robglosta Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Kicking is so bad, so many times yesterday it either went straight out of play, through to their keeper or to an opposing player which put us right on the back foot. I'd almost taken for granted how good Grantys kicking is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 See my above post! Do you not think terrible kicking has any relevance? The aiming of kicks to (mainly) Forsyth seems to have crept in over the last couple of weeks because sides are now pushing up on Derby's central defenders as soon as the goalkeeper collects the ball. A 70 yard kick up the centre to Martin doesn't have to be accurate - but one to the flanks does (no margin for error - otherwise it's in the stand). The object of the exercise seems to be that Forsyth flicks the ball on to a midfield player and we take it on from there. The kick up the middle to Martin never worked once yesterday because he was being clobbered by the central defenders every time with the referee seemingly looking in the opposite direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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