Hinzy9 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 The list above represents a loss of just under 3 million, lets look at some other signings, Martin free Fozzy free Grant free Buxton free It's easy to cherry pick facts, we could all do it to support our viewpoints, my view is he did well, but wouldn't have taken us to the next level like Mac has, sad he was sacked, but pleased with where we are now. Not many managers have the luxury of 5 years, 10 transfer windows and 50+ signings to try and pick up some decent talent. You would think even the worse managers would eventually get some of their lucky dips right. Of the players that do remain from cloughs tenure most have required a significant amount of coaching to bring them up to the standard of a promotion chasing side...something which the previous manager was clearly not capable of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Not many managers have the luxury of 5 years, 10 transfer windows and 50+ signings to try and pick up some decent talent. You would think even the worse managers would eventually get some of their lucky dips right. Of the players that do remain from cloughs tenure most have required a significant amount of coaching to bring them up to the standard of a promotion chasing side...something which the previous manager was clearly not capable of. Hence why I said I'm pleased with where we are now, don't think it's as easy as better coaching, maybe just better suited, more positive tactics? I'd guess that's the difference between a manager with previous non-league experience, and a ex international manager who's won titles abroad, and took a smaller club than us to a UEFA cup final. Not a Nigel fan btw, just looking for balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 If Nigel was here now I don't think we'd be this good. That's all that matters isn't it? Not how much lower or higher we'd be. Just would we be better or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peakram Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I didn't like many of his tactics to be honest, nor what seemed to be a lack of ambition at times, though I agree he brought some good players in on frees as well as some poor ones, but didn't get the best out of them. Sammon was preferred to Martin in the main strikers role for one, with the latter playing much deeper, which now would look laughable. But much happier with the more positive outlook and skills the current coaching staff bring, plus don't think there was much depth to the immediate staff Nigel brought with him. But lets move on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 you've got a mod room? Bloody favouritism - a room for mods? What about one for us rockers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgford Ram Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Mid table with an improving but underperforming squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 The conclusion is even the Clough lovers can't bring themselves to defend that list of signings! Oh, utter garbage and bullshit. Every single one of Clough's poor, or should we say 'less successful' signings, is more than compensated for tenfold by the fact that he signed Buxton, Forsyth, Keogh, Ward, Russell, Grant and (Chris) Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 We wouldn't have signed Thorne that's for sure. I'd hazard a guess that Stevie May would have been our big summer signing. Interestingly, I read the Sheff Wednesday forum the the time that he signed and their fans were going so over the top - 20 goal a season striker, the one to take us to the playoffs, best signing in years etc. - it was very reminscent of us signing Johnny Russell. I can't help feel the Owls are now where we were three or four years ago, treating every 20 goal a season striker from Scotland as the new saviour and best signing in years... Stevie May incidentally has scored a whopping three goals this season, with one of those being a rubbish deflected freekick .....which in all fairness is 3 more than Johnny Russell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curb Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 We'd still have the legend that is Saul Deeney..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peakram Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 The best seventh choice keeper we have ever had (or at least vying for it) and our best ever dressing room sweeper upper after the others had gone I am led to believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 you've got a mod room? Bloody favouritism - a room for mods? What about one for us rockers? Mods, rockers.....there should also be rooms for all the minority groups otherwises its discrimination!! We demand rooms for: Disabled people people with phantom limbs Deaf people Blind people Gay, lesbian, and bi-sexual people others with minority sexual preferences including s&m and anyone with intimate piercings Black and minority ethnic people Women....they should have their own bloody room Elderly people Young people Dead people People who are not yet born Pregnant people and young mums People who have undergone gender reassignment ( would you mind sharing with the trannies? No offence.) Roman catholics Protestants Methodists Seventh day adventists Muslims Bhuddists Rastas Druids Atheists Fruitarians, Vegans and Vegetarians Cheese lovers Celiacs and those with a gluten or nut allergy Learner drivers Married people People who are in a civil partnership Cat lovers Dog lovers Pidgeon fanciers Socialists Marxists Tories (including iRam) Lib-dem supporters ( are there any?) The Greens Members of the IRA, the REAL IRA and the INLA (no in-fighting please) People with assisted vision People with false limbs People with false teeth People with hair extensions, tupees, or wigs People with bad taste Hairdressors Cross dressers (sorry already counted them) Goths Mentally ill people Axe murders People with a learning disability, cancer or HIV Badger killers Traffic wardens Lollipop ladies The mcCanns Page 3 models Anyone i've not yet offended....... WE DEMAND ROOMS FOR ALL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Woo hoo. I get seven rooms. Bet you can't guess which ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Saul Deeney. Do you think he has many great stories from his playing days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I'm not sharing a room with BMW drivers. Cnuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I'm not sharing a room with BMW drivers. Cnuts Don't worry, you won't have to. Bmw drivers get a executive suite, not a room, where they compare nob sizes and slag off all non beemer drivers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Woo hoo. I get seven rooms. Bet you can't guess which ones. Elderly Rocker Deaf Married Atheist Cross dressing Cheese lover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozza Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Where would we be now with Nigel still in charge ? trying to work out a way of getting him out , without hurting anyone's feelings .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkleyram Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Woo hoo. I get seven rooms. Bet you can't guess which ones. I'll have a go Eddie: Elderly Married One of the religious ones - guess Methodist Cat/dog/pigeon - guess Dog lover Politics - guess Socialist Assisted vision ie glasses/contacts And You've run over a badger at least once in your life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkleyram Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I'll have a go Eddie: Elderly Married One of the religious ones - guess Methodist Cat/dog/pigeon - guess Dog lover Politics - guess Socialist Assisted vision ie glasses/contacts And You've run over a badger at least once in your life Or maybe you prefer cheese and have never squashed a badger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Saul Deeney. Do you think he has many great stories from his playing days? One good game v Man Utd and being saved from the dole queue for a decade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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