Scott129 Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 "Twenty years ago there were no Muslims in the Premier League. Now there are nearly forty - enough for three football teams. To mark the start of Ramadan, this programme, narrated by Colin Murray, speaks to star players and top managers to find out what impact Muslims are having on the English game." Don't know if anyone watched this today but it's worth it if you have 30 minutes free. It's mostly about Ali Al-Habsi but it's a pretty interesting insight into football and religion http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b036qfqc/The_Muslim_Premier_League/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrivateDerby Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Have we ever had a Muslim player? Or even one with a religion other than Christianity? Wouldn't mind that Monk out of Mean Machine but Grant will do for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Ellington was Muslim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott129 Posted July 7, 2013 Author Share Posted July 7, 2013 ^ Featured in the doc actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 I should have said "is" a Muslim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrivateDerby Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Ah yes Ellington! How could I forget the player that got me dragged out of the Britannia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrivateDerby Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 I think you were right first time Boycie, he was, then he wasn't, now he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 WTF has religion got to do with football? or vice-versa. Is that Latin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Ah yes Ellington! How could I forget the player that got me dragged out of the Britannia. fantastic night to be a staffs based Derby fan......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Barazite too? Not that I'm bothered one way or the other. There was also Hossam Ghali, and I believe that there was an Egyptian who played around a hundred years ago. Like I said, who cares what religion anyone adheres to? And Mounir El-Hamsandwich. And Mo Konjic. And Mo Camara. A bit of research reveals loads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott129 Posted July 7, 2013 Author Share Posted July 7, 2013 WTF has religion got to do with football? or vice-versa. Is that Latin? Quite a bit tbh, more than I thought anyway. You've got fasting, praying, charity, halal meat in the canteens, even the sponsors that endorse alcohol, gambling, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Word is that some muslim families don't encourage their kids to join in organised football. Don't know if that is true but some muslim people i work with say it is. If the fear of watering down your religion is the reason then I would say your religion isn't strong in the first place. Any religion seems a bit suspect to me if you have to force it on your kids. Let them grow up and make their own mind up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrivateDerby Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 fantastic night to be a staffs based Derby fan......... Boy was it, I know it sounds sad but i've never ever had such a rush. I was in the Boothen End with my ex's Dad, two Brothers and Uncle... We got the penalty, bang it's in. Before I knew it, I was under a load of FBC's, crawling under seats and through legs trying to get to the aisle. Anyway, I didn't make it and didn't hear the final whistle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrivateDerby Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Still second to Christie's two in ten minutes at Pride Park though. Anyway, sorry, Muslims.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Boy was it, I know it sounds sad but i've never ever had such a rush. I was in the Boothen End with my ex's Dad, two Brothers and Uncle... We got the penalty, bang it's in. Before I knew it, I was under a load of FBC's, crawling under seats and through legs trying to get to the aisle. Anyway, I didn't make it and didn't hear the final whistle. Got back into the Three Tuns pub in Utch that night just before the local Stokies......we barely mentioned it..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Word is that some muslim families don't encourage their kids to join in organised football. Don't know if that is true but some muslim people i work with say it is. If the fear of watering down your religion is the reason then I would say your religion isn't strong in the first place. Any religion seems a bit suspect to me if you have to force it on your kids. Let them grow up and make their own mind up! Depends on the religion. In some religions, the whole point is to make your kids believe. You don't want to go to hell, do you? If that's your belief, that's your reality. You're doing your duty by making your kids believe, doing everyone a favour in the process. It all looks ridiculous by our standards, but by their standards, a hell of a lot of stuff we do is crazy.... Anyway, as for the footie and religion, being Muslim has a lot to do with it, as mentioned above. Hadn't thought about Halal meat before but Ramadan must affect players. No food or drink from sunset to sunrise? That must be agony if you're a professional athlete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Couldn't care less where Derby County players came from or what faiths the believe in, all about ability for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Depends on the religion. In some religions, the whole point is to make your kids believe. You don't want to go to hell, do you? If that's your belief, that's your reality. You're doing your duty by making your kids believe, doing everyone a favour in the process. It all looks ridiculous by our standards, but by their standards, a hell of a lot of stuff we do is crazy.... Anyway, as for the footie and religion, being Muslim has a lot to do with it, as mentioned above. Hadn't thought about Halal meat before but Ramadan must affect players. No food or drink from sunset to sunrise? That must be agony if you're a professional athlete. It cracks me up that people believe if you eat at a certain time of day you'll either rot in hell or live for ever. People would have had to eat to survive for thousands of years before organised religion reared its ugly head. Religion is ******. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 It cracks me up that people believe if you eat at a certain time of day you'll either rot in hell or live for ever. People would have had to eat to survive for thousands of years before organised religion reared its ugly head. Religion is ******. Or, humanity was going around without guidance and only since Allah revealed the holy Quran to the prophet Muhammed have humans been given the correct guidance to fully submit to God....that's just what they believe. A God that doesn't have to explain himself. Seems daft to you, but we do daft stuff too. We're willing to put poison into our body and lose control of what we're doing and we seem to celebrate this. We gamble knowing full well it's addictive and loses us money. That cracks them up too. Not saying we should have a competition to see which way of living is the most daft, but still, they don't get everything wrong. Religion may be ******, but it's not unique in that. Everything's ******. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Couldn't care less where Derby County players came from or what faiths the believe in, all about ability for me. I would say the same if stuff like this didn't have an impact on ability, but it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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