AndyB Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 It looks like Paul Green is progressing well and may start playing again in November. I wonder if he would get in the first team now or just be on the bench? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Why on earth was he not given a squad number? 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/unsure' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':unsure:' /> Don't really rate Green, but I suppose he's an extra body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotherhamRam Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 I would say he was not given a squad number due to the seriousness of the injury or the suspected injury. Lets be fair when he was injured it was believed he would be out for 6-9 months http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/Blow-Green-faces-lengthy-time/story-11650328-detail/story.html This would mean the earliest it was planned he would be back to training would have been between December and March. Therefore potentially out for the season. Look at Bodde at Swansea rushed back and did the same knee again and was out for another season. I don't think there is anything sinister in not giving him a number, more like a message saying get yourself right and don't rush back. Lets be honest he has done fantastically well and if he was not in the long future plans of Clough he would not be coming back in November and he would not be as motivated to complete the hard work he has obviously done over the last 4 months to be even in contention of playing in November. This is a further example of the treatment team at Derby as Steve Davies was also back quicker than expected and he too has enjoyed the longest run in a Derby shirt injury free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastKentRam Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 I would say he was not given a squad number due to the seriousness of the injury or the suspected injury. Lets be fair when he was injured it was believed he would be out for 6-9 months [url=http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/Blow-Green-faces-lengthy-time/story-11650328-detail/story.html]http://www.thisisder...tail/story.html This would mean the earliest it was planned he would be back to training would have been between December and March. Therefore potentially out for the season. Look at Bodde at Swansea rushed back and did the same knee again and was out for another season. I don't think there is anything sinister in not giving him a number, more like a message saying get yourself right and don't rush back. Lets be honest he has done fantastically well and if he was not in the long future plans of Clough he would not be coming back in November and he would not be as motivated to complete the hard work he has obviously done over the last 4 months to be even in contention of playing in November. This is a further example of the treatment team at Derby as Steve Davies was also back quicker than expected and he too has enjoyed the longest run in a Derby shirt injury free Haha, for a club that's had as many injuries as ours in recent years i dont think you're in much of a position to be w*nking off the medical team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the464444 Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Haha, for a club that's had as many injuries as ours in recent years i dont think you're in much of a position to be w*nking off the medical team. Agreed, I think he should work on his technique. 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':D' /> [size=2]I'll get me coat.[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Haha, for a club that's had as many injuries as ours in recent years i dont think you're in much of a position to be w*nking off the medical team. Come on EKR, you should know by now Rotherham only does positivity.. He's hardly going to turn around and admit that there might be a slight chance something/anything about Derby isn't the best in the business.. I also read someone the other day say that there isn't anyone out there who could have done a better job than NC.. Technically, that means NC is the best out there, better than Pep and Jose Mourinho.. Of Paul Green, I rate him, he was decent when played as an attacking midfielder.. He was even leading our assists.. Then genius put him at RB then DM.. Hope Clough doesn't do that again, he could actually be somewhat near that creative midfielder we lack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asanovic Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 I like him. If he gets fit he could be the midfielder that everyone says we need so badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 I like Paul Green. Green, Bryson, Bailey and Hendrick will be a nice selection headache to have. I'd be tempted with a 100% fit Green and Bryson combo....."ahhh you fool but what Hendrick!!?"...and to you I say....slowly, slowly catchy monkey . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekkie_ram Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 He'll have half a season to prove fitness and get a new deal =) Or, have half a season to prove fitness and be poached =( He is on a bigger contract than most players though, so I wouldn't be disappointed either way, I wish him well though =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianm Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Come on EKR, you should know by now Rotherham only does positivity.. He's hardly going to turn around and admit that there might be a slight chance something/anything about Derby isn't the best in the business.. I also read someone the other day say that there isn't anyone out there who could have done a better job than NC.. Technically, that means NC is the best out there, better than Pep and Jose Mourinho.. Of Paul Green, I rate him, he was decent when played as an attacking midfielder.. He was even leading our assists.. Then genius put him at RB then DM.. Hope Clough doesn't do that again, he could actually be somewhat near that creative midfielder we lack. There is no way you can call Green a creative midfielder, he is a box to box player in a 4-4-2 with his high workrate and energy levels. He struggled the last 2 years as he hasn't the skill and creativity to be an attacking midfielder consistently or be a wide player and his passing was too erratic to play the Savage role as an advanced defender. He could play in the current system or as an extra midfielder against the better teams like Leicester. I don't think though he is as good a player as Bryson and certainly Hendrick, who is on another level in terms of all round midfield ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asanovic Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 There is no way you can call Green a creative midfielder, he is a box to box player in a 4-4-2 with his high workrate and energy levels. He struggled the last 2 years as he hasn't the skill and creativity to be an attacking midfielder consistently or be a wide player and his passing was too erratic to play the Savage role as an advanced defender. He could play in the current system or as an extra midfielder against the better teams like Leicester. I don't think though he is as good a player as Bryson and certainly Hendrick, who is on another level in terms of all round midfield ability. I thought Hendrick was poo poo pants last Saturday. Not that others weren't, but I don't think he's on 'another level' - maybe in terms of ability, but not current performances. They're all doing well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted October 7, 2011 Author Share Posted October 7, 2011 Given we currently have only two fit centre midfielders it will certainly be a nice problem to have. I could see a 451 / 433 developing in certain games but we don't really have that option at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 I really think it's a case of Bryson or Green in a starting line-up. They're too similar to play together. Green's no mean back-up but I still think Bryson should be first choice for the box-to-box role, as he's a far superior passer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hucknall Ram Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 There is no way you can call Green a creative midfielder. I can, during the time of commons, cywka, bureno, kqui, Moore etc, green had the most assist. To me that means he is a creative midfielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianm Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 . I can, during the time of commons, cywka, bureno, kqui, Moore etc, green had the most assist. To me that means he is a creative midfielder. I totally disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pudding Jack Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 he has creativity but he isnt a 'creative midfielder'. thats a role reserved for the likes of idiakez or osman or blah blah. good to have him back but cant see him walking into this team. addisons bck in january too....we'll have too bloody many players then. arf arf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hucknall Ram Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 I totally disagree. Why? He creates goals, he was top for our team for assists last season, hence a creative midfielder, he may not do it with fair, but he creates goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabber Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Why? He creates goals, he was top for our team for assists last season, hence a creative midfielder, he may not do it with fair, but he creates goals. I hear what you are saying Huck, but by that criteria (# of assists) would you consider Ben Davies as a creative midfielder? I imagine a creative midfielder to be a central player who sits there pulling all the strings, I don't see Green doing that, Bryson, a developed Hendrick and Bailey perhaps. I agree he created a lot in our golden spell last season, but he was surrounded by creativity in that team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinkletoes Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Is anyone bothered about seeing him in a derby shirt again honestly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Why? He creates goals, he was top for our team for assists last season, hence a creative midfielder, he may not do it with fair, but he creates goals. There's a difference between creating a goal and being creative. Crossing a ball or passing to a striker isn't particularly creative, it's just basic stuff, which Paul Green is very good at. Creativity more often than not the pass before the assist or the pass before the pass for the assist - the kind of player that opens up play and gets the team's play going by a killer pass. That's a Bueno or a David Silva, not a Paul Green or a Gareth Barry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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