Haiti a Living Hell

[MaltRam]

12 hours ago, BaaLocks said:

Wht an utterly uninformed and ridiculous comment. The country is devoid of any infrastructure at all, even basic things like running water, food in supermarkets. The streets are ruled by random gangs of warlords with only criminal intent at mind. What do you expect them to do, write a letter to their MP? Maybe have a cake sale to raise funds for a new swimming pool for the kiddies?

As @sage said, nobody from the outside is coming as there is no political benefit in doing so. Truly, it is a living hell - no hope to fix it yourself, no hope to get help to do so. We should collectively hang our heads in shame that the only time we care about our fellow (wo)man is when there is economic benefit to do so.

It was a question, not a statement, so I'd appreciate it if you'd dial back the righteous indignation, but I'll explore the theme a little further. Haiti is a murderous s*******. Who's fault is that? 

France's? They were kicked out by the inhabitants well over 200 years ago, and the colonial population killed. Not their problem, I would contend.

The USA carry some blame as they occupied in the early 20th century and massively damaged the country.

75 years later though, they've hit rock bottom. Is that anything to do with anyone in the UK? Not for me, especially when we've got our own roof to fix.

How much blame do the inhabitants carry for their own circumstances? Some? None? 

People kill each other in the absence of civilisation. That could almost be a workable definition of civilisation.

Can a civil society be imposed? Even by a nation as powerful as the USA, backed by it's allies? The girls of Afghanistan would say the evidence is against.

Until the people of Haiti stand for themselves, they'll live and die on their knees. They could be helped, and I'll bet they will be, slowly...but it's on them to learn their lessons.

[cstand]

Another great YouTube video I watched couple of years ago about Haiti. 
Profits from the video was taken to the village elder.

The people in the village looked really friendly. 
 

Read the comments dont just look at the video 

Edited March 27 by cstand

[BaaLocks]

11 hours ago, MaltRam said:

It's on them to learn their lessons.

[Ram-Alf]

11 hours ago, MaltRam said:

Until the people of Haiti stand for themselves, they'll live and die on their knees. They could be helped, and I'll bet they will be, slowly...but it's on them to learn their lessons.

A very well thought out post 👍

I'm just going to stick one large caveat in there.

The Haitians in my lifetime(68 years)have had an awful time and getting worse that the bottom is still to be reached, These peoples have been Murdered, Raped, Robbed, Tortured and Kidnapped by a regime that is more corrupt than a straight corkscrew, Anyone that has had the balls to step forward and revolt has ended up missing presumed dead.

The Police, The Army, The Judicial system, The Politicians are/were as crooked as they come and have been replaced by gangs who for what ever reason are just as bad as those that they have toppled.

Now this is my question to you, Look at all those Countries that fear their Politicians...Russia, Belarus, North Korea, Vietnam, China and more, The majority of South American Countries, The majority of African Countries...why don't these people rise up and take their Country back...Fear, Fear of reprisals, They who control the Country and armed forces...control the people.

Gone are the days of revolution, Hope has died, Charity trickles along and what does get there gets in the hands of the gangs to profit, Haiti is so far past saving that death seems to be the only viable option for it's citizens.

And the World sits on it's hands while people lie dead in the road.

The End 😔