plymouthram Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Thinking back to last season, Leicester and Burnley got promotion and had very few injuries to key players. I know at the tail end of that season Burnley lost both their strikers, but by then they had the points in the bag. This season Norwich had a few injuries before xmas but have got them back and are now in with a chance of an automatic place. Bournemouth, Watford, M'boro and most of our rivals have had hardly any key players missing for any long periods. Now what about the Rams, well we have had our top goalscorer out for nearly 2 months. Centrebacks (Buxton, Whitbread, Albentosa) DCMs (Thorne, Eustace, Mascrarell) Strikers (Bent, Martin, Bennett) and the rest of the midfield have all had short spells out. I know this might sound like a bit of moan about our luck with not having players available especially at the key moment of the season. If we went injury free this season, I do believe we would have won the title. I still think we can get promotion this season, but please no more injuries. ITS TIME WE HAD SOME LUCK AND RUB OF THE GREEN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 How many injuries did we have last year? Not many at all and we didn't go up, plus last years points total probably wouldn't be enough this year anyway. Over a 46 game season you're going to expect injuries, it's just by chance that Martin picked up the two month injury and not someone that is less important to our side.We've made too many mistakes. You haven't seen many screamers fly in against us that you hold your hands up and say there's nothing we could have done about it. Individual errors or a lack of them are what get you promoted. Obviously a full strength squad helps but whichever way you look at it, this league was ours to take when we were 5 points clear at the top and we've shot ourselves in the foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamFan13 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 How many injuries did we have last year? Not many at all and we didn't go up, plus last years points total probably wouldn't be enough this year anyway. Over a 46 game season you're going to expect injuries, it's just by chance that Martin picked up the two month injury and not someone that is less important to our side.We've made too many mistakes. You haven't seen many screamers fly in against us that you hold your hands up and say there's nothing we could have done about it. Individual errors or a lack of them are what get you promoted. Obviously a full strength squad helps but whichever way you look at it, this league was ours to take when we were 5 points clear at the top and we've shot ourselves in the foot.Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddesdenRam Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 The only 2 injuries that made a difference were Chris Martin at Bournemouth and Darren Bent vs Fulham.You could argue Thorne but we were fine without him. Bucko turned out to be a bigger miss than first anticipated. I think he has a point in that if you took away all the top scorers from the top 6 they would have had dips in form.Imagine these teams:Bournemouth without Callum Wilson and Kermogant!Watford without Deeney and Ighalo.Bamford and Vossen at Boro.Jerome and Hooper at Norwich. injuries this season were a valid excuse but there is no point moaning about it. You won't hear other clubs giving us sympathy. So get behind the lads, let's stop feeling sorry for ourselves and win the playoffs!! Coyr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthram Posted April 10, 2015 Author Share Posted April 10, 2015 How many injuries did we have last year? Not many at all and we didn't go up, plus last years points total probably wouldn't be enough this year anyway. Over a 46 game season you're going to expect injuries, it's just by chance that Martin picked up the two month injury and not someone that is less important to our side.We've made too many mistakes. You haven't seen many screamers fly in against us that you hold your hands up and say there's nothing we could have done about it. Individual errors or a lack of them are what get you promoted. Obviously a full strength squad helps but whichever way you look at it, this league was ours to take when we were 5 points clear at the top and we've shot ourselves in the foot.We did have Injuries, and more than the two teams that got automatics. Yes we have made mistakes and not having a settled defence as not helped. The point I was trying to get across is, the teams with the least injuries to key players with good squads will have the best chance of grabbing promotion, due to having regular settled fit set of players. And with all the injuries and to key players, we have done well to stay in touch with possible promotion. You can not judge our points total on what we could get this season (There is a lot of stronger teams) Even our manager stated this earlier in the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Personally I think the key to promotion is getting more points than the teams around you.however, sarcasm aside, I think Thorne in the team all season would have given us an extra 5-10 points no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Injuries are part and parcel of the game. It's more about how we react to those.We did it poorly, IMO. When all of our three DM's were out, we needed one or change the way you play.When both of our striker where out, we needed one.Maybe it was a case of not having money or lack of better options than Hanson and Russell... that we may never know. In hindsight, this error looks to cost us a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 And I should add that 4-2-3-1 came too late... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 We had terrible luck in that in the most important positions that make us tick we had five injuries out - and all at once!I have no doubts that had we managed to keep both Martin and Thorne fit for those seven fixtures we would be clear in the autos by now. We'd probably be on around 80 points too.But I don't think that is the key to gaining promotion. Goals are. Create chances, take efforts, score goals.When was the last time we scored from long range for instance? Do we even attempt goals from long range or are we strictly trained not to? Bournemouth for instance have scored 21 goals from outside the area - Is that luck?I also think quite a few things have gone against us this season aside from injuries. We've not managed more than three wins on the bounce all season, and I think that the fixture list hasn't helped us in this case.We've played too many away games back-to-back and on two occasions this season we've had four away games in a six-game period. It has halted momentum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwich Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 (from a non-derby perspective)The trouble with your season is not necessarily the amount of injuries but the player(s) and timing of your injuries. Thorne was a big player for you but you didn't miss him earlier in the season so he can be discarded to a slight degree. The key injury/problem for you was obviously the injury to Chris Martin and the problem it gave to you formation-wise at a time crucially when you were playing all the other teams around you. Without his hold-up play and link-up play, your formation falls flat on its heels and it's this inflexibility that may ultimately cost you. Bournemouth play some great football but have no doubt had some incredible luck with regards to injuries and key events (penalties and red cards) going massively in their favour. As a result, they sit top and will all but certainly get promoted.Boro have relied on a meagre defence and with this approach comes less risk associated with key injuries up-top. However their lack of goals will probably see them unable to finish top-2.Watford have great strength in depth offensively and indeed have had their share of injuries with Deeney, Igalho and Abdi (who's a great player) missing parts of the season, as well as suspensions racking up. Good squad depth though and can adapt formations, which is perhaps the reason for Derby/Watford relation to current positions. Norwich have a big squad who can cope with most injuries, we just needed the right man in charge. We've had our share of injuries/problems [Bassong / Tettey / Hoolahan / Hooper / Grabban (now) ] but we've been able to bring in the likes of Redmond, Dorrans, and Jerome to cover without losing quality. I think this has shown in our recent form over the busy March/April period. Brentford/Ipswich/Wolves all have relatively small squads/budgets and have managed to stay mostly free of key injuries but will maybe just come up short as the games catch up on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyDyer Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 As much as we missed Martin, Bent and Thorne, did their absence make certain players literally gift wrap multiple goals for the opposition? That's what cost us the most. You draw against Wolves, Brighton, and hold on to the win against Birmingham, and we are joint 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 The only 2 injuries that made a difference were Chris Martin at Bournemouth and Darren Bent vs Fulham.You could argue Thorne but we were fine without him. Bucko turned out to be a bigger miss than first anticipated. I think he has a point in that if you took away all the top scorers from the top 6 they would have had dips in form.Imagine these teams:Bournemouth without Callum Wilson and Kermogant!Watford without Deeney and Ighalo.Bamford and Vossen at Boro.Jerome and Hooper at Norwich. injuries this season were a valid excuse but there is no point moaning about it. You won't hear other clubs giving us sympathy. So get behind the lads, let's stop feeling sorry for ourselves and win the playoffs!! Coyr. You're especially right about Bournemouth. When Callum wilson got injured they said that he was going to out for the rest of the season but he didnt miss a single game and is fit and firing. Problem with us is that we the injuries that were said to be minor proved to be long term injuries such as Martin and eustace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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