stoners Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 I personally wouldn't - but I guess you'd say different if you was a red dog. No one can make a fair judgment as you watch at least 23 games of your own players and an handful of ours and visa versa. I can't make a judgement on your players but i know Lansbury is a class player in this division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knowle Rohrer Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Would Forest fans rather see us go up so that you wouldn't have to play us again next season, or lose in the playoffs and thereby ensure further humiliation for you next year? Funnily enough I was thinking of this earlier and if you go up I certainly would not miss playing you next year. However, under Pearce we would at least put up some sort of battle and not roll over which was the worst thing about that day. When he was caretaker manager of us in 1997 when we were on the verge of relegation he really got the players up for a game at the BBG and we managed to scrape a 0-0 draw. I think you will go up as you are the best side in the play-offs, comfortably. QPR are nothing special and mediocre without Austin and Brighton and Reading are both inconsistent. Wigan are probably the best side on paper but their form seems to have deserted them. I would laugh a lot if we let Brighton in and they beat you in the semi-finals though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Not going to happen old son so save your laughter for next season when Physco bores you rigid with his insipid brand of football coz you sure won't have much to laugh about then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Funnily enough I was thinking of this earlier and if you go up I certainly would not miss playing you next year. However, under Pearce we would at least put up some sort of battle and not roll over which was the worst thing about that day. When he was caretaker manager of us in 1997 when we were on the verge of relegation he really got the players up for a game at the BBG and we managed to scrape a 0-0 draw. I think you will go up as you are the best side in the play-offs, comfortably. QPR are nothing special and mediocre without Austin and Brighton and Reading are both inconsistent. Wigan are probably the best side on paper but their form seems to have deserted them. I would laugh a lot if we let Brighton in and they beat you in the semi-finals though. I think it'll be Reading personally, but I'd probably prefer Brighton. Reading aren't in great form but with Le Fondre and Pog-whateverthefuckhisnameis up front they'll be dangerous. Plus I'd hate to lose to that smarmy **** Adkins. Not sure who I'd rather have if we got to the final - QPR are in such poor form, but with the players they have in their squad could beat anyone in this division on their day. Wigan have been in great form until the last couple of weeks so perhaps their long season is catching up with them. We're in great form, 5 wins in a row again, but runs like that always come to an end. Just hope it's at the start of next season..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knowle Rohrer Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 I don't understand why they rate Lansbury so highly. I think he is a good player don't get me wrong - but let's say we get promoted this season, he is offered to us for a million - I wouldn't see the point. He's a good Championship player that lacks the finesse to play in the Premier League - that's from what I have seen and what I can gather. The statistics seem to back me up too. He plays less than 1 key pass per game (goalscoring opportunity) and only has a 75% pass accuracy. However, he does have over 2 shots a game.. most of which are from outside the box and off target - unsurprisingly. He does seem 'all-action' gets a good number of tackles in, yellow cards...etc but there is no substance to their claims about him being a 'world-class' player. A good Championship player, but in my opinion, way off from being a Premier League player. £1million seems about right. On the otherhand, I think Andy Reid has been absolutely superb this season - every game I've watched him play, he has been the driving force behind their side. I think you underrate him, he is not world class but a very accomplished midfielder for this level. He is no better than what you have and is not ready to play in the Premier League but he has the potential. He needs to stop shouting his mouth off though at every opportunity he gets. You are right about Reid and I hope he is able to produce his form again next season. Vaughan is a class act, wins the ball and uses it well. It is a real shame he has been injured but he will be key for us next season. On the other hand: Jara, Halford, Henderson, Cox, Abdoun, Collins, Harding, Fox, Djebbour, Majewski and Moussi are all nowhere near good enough. Halford in particular is woeful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knowle Rohrer Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 I think it'll be Reading personally, but I'd probably prefer Brighton. Reading aren't in great form but with Le Fondre and Pog-whateverthefuckhisnameis up front they'll be dangerous. Plus I'd hate to lose to that smarmy **** Adkins. Not sure who I'd rather have if we got to the final - QPR are in such poor form, but with the players they have in their squad could beat anyone in this division on their day. Wigan have been in great form until the last couple of weeks so perhaps their long season is catching up with them. We're in great form, 5 wins in a row again, but runs like that always come to an end. Just hope it's at the start of next season..... Agreed but I would strongly fancy you to beat either Reading or Brighton. Your thrashing of us shows how McClaren can get the side motivated for the big ocassions and even though neither will be anywhere near as bad as us, if you play like that you will be too good for them. I don't think QPR's squad is nearly as good as people think it is. I thought they would comfortably finish in the top two this season so I have been proved wrong on that. I would say a Derby Wigan final and you to win. Would you be able to compete in the Premier League? Do you think McClaren would demand a lot of money and if he was not given it would the relationship go sour like it did for him at Forest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
froggg Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Agreed but I would strongly fancy you to beat either Reading or Brighton. Your thrashing of us shows how McClaren can get the side motivated for the big ocassions and even though neither will be anywhere near as bad as us, if you play like that you will be too good for them. I don't think QPR's squad is nearly as good as people think it is. I thought they would comfortably finish in the top two this season so I have been proved wrong on that. I would say a Derby Wigan final and you to win. Would you be able to compete in the Premier League? Do you think McClaren would demand a lot of money and if he was not given it would the relationship go sour like it did for him at Forest? All will be apparent soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 I think you underrate him, he is not world class but a very accomplished midfielder for this level. He is no better than what you have and is not ready to play in the Premier League but he has the potential. He needs to stop shouting his mouth off though at every opportunity he gets. You are right about Reid and I hope he is able to produce his form again next season. Vaughan is a class act, wins the ball and uses it well. It is a real shame he has been injured but he will be key for us next season. On the other hand: Jara, Halford, Henderson, Cox, Abdoun, Collins, Harding, Fox, Djebbour, Majewski and Moussi are all nowhere near good enough. Halford in particular is woeful. Personally i don't think your problems are due to poor individual players. To me it seems like a group of mostly expensive signings have been thrown together where as our squad was painstakingly built on a far lower budget. Our team spirit seems a major factor, the players seem to genuinely like each other and the young lads appear to be fairly well grounded rather than the flashy chav type that some clubs have. Nigel Clough knew the importance of having the right type of characters in the squad and left Steve with a very easy to manage group of lads. Steve has been able to concentrate on using his undoubted coaching and tactical skills rather than worrying about factions and cliques within the squad. Billy's return was always going to end in tears, laughter in our case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
froggg Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Personally i don't think your problems are due to poor individual players. To me it seems like a group of mostly expensive signings have been thrown together where as our squad was painstakingly built on a far lower budget. Our team spirit seems a major factor, the players seem to genuinely like each other and the young lads appear to be fairly well grounded rather than the flashy chav type that some clubs have. Nigel Clough knew the importance of having the right type of characters in the squad and left Steve with a very easy to manage group of lads. Steve has been able to concentrate on using his undoubted coaching and tactical skills rather than worrying about factions and cliques within the squad. Billy's return was always going to end in tears, laughter in our case. top points Utch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 top points Utch made up for the pathetic pissed post last night? I love Derby... da shame...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
froggg Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 made up for the pathetic pissed post last night? I love Derby... da shame...... I did smile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
froggg Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 made up for the pathetic pissed post last night? I love Derby... da shame...... we all do, and let's face it the dogs season was fcuked yesterday so good cause for celebration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 we all do, and let's face it the dogs season was fcuked yesterday so good cause for celebration ave it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 I think it'll be Reading personally, but I'd probably prefer Brighton. Reading aren't in great form but with Le Fondre and Pog-whateverthefuckhisnameis up front they'll be dangerous. Plus I'd hate to lose to that smarmy **** Adkins. Not sure who I'd rather have if we got to the final - QPR are in such poor form, but with the players they have in their squad could beat anyone in this division on their day. Wigan have been in great form until the last couple of weeks so perhaps their long season is catching up with them. We're in great form, 5 wins in a row again, but runs like that always come to an end. Just hope it's at the start middle of next season..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevin Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Derby appreciation society on LTLF Derby are playing the sort of football that would see them avoid relegation next season. It's a rare a containment side (unless they're managed by Tony Pulis it seems) manage to survive and good footballing sides usually surprise the Premier League. If they go up, I'd wager Derby would finish highest out of the promoted teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Derby appreciation society on LTLF Derby are playing the sort of football that would see them avoid relegation next season. It's a rare a containment side (unless they're managed by Tony Pulis it seems) manage to survive and good footballing sides usually surprise the Premier League. If they go up, I'd wager Derby would finish highest out of the Kevin got a new userid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsdubs Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 He is correct though, defensive minded teams that go up get slaughtered. Dwarf tried it and was massively naive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 If you look at the table it's evident that we can finish lower than our current position You are correct didn't notice watford had 2 games to go, that would be funny, good to see you are optimistic about retaining 11th. You'll never make the Prem this decade, it will take that long to recover from Billy Davies handy work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 You are correct didn't notice watford had 2 games to go, that would be funny, good to see you are optimistic about retaining 11th. You'll never make the Prem this decade, it will take that long to recover from Billy Davies handy work. Top half though - not bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knowle Rohrer Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Top half though - not bad. It's an improvement of 8 places from two years ago! With our injuries, a very naive owner and Davies' shenanigans then it is hardly a surprise the season has collapsed though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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