sage Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 If you were picking a team for England's next game, what would it be, presuming everyone is fit? I would go for the 4-1-4-1 that all the best teams play Hart Walker Jagielka Cahill Cole Gerrard Walcott Barkley Wilshere Townsend Rooney Not massively happy with the choices at RB and Sturridge may squeeze Townsend out if he plays a few games out wide for Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSD Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Hart Wisdom Buxton Cahill Cole Hughes Gerrard Barkley Rooney Martin Walcott See I'm not 100% biased Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted December 12, 2013 Author Share Posted December 12, 2013 Hart Wisdom Buxton Cahill Cole Hughes Gerrard Barkley Rooney Martin Walcott See I'm not 100% biased Joking aside Wisdom is in the top ten English right backs already, if not the top five. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSD Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Joking aside Wisdom is in the top ten English right backs already, if not the top five. Yeah I'd say so. I think he's on about the same level as Clyne, aren't they a similar age as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted December 12, 2013 Author Share Posted December 12, 2013 Most of the England right backs are effectively wing backs, ie Johnson, Walker etc, so maybe in 2 years time if he keeps making progress, he may offer an alternative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 If you were picking a team for England's next game, what would it be, presuming everyone is fit? I would go for the 4-1-4-1 that all the best teams play Hart Walker Jagielka Cahill Cole Gerrard Walcott Barkley Wilshere Townsend Rooney Not massively happy with the choices at RB and Sturridge may squeeze Townsend out if he plays a few games out wide for Liverpool. Was typing mine out and then realized that it's exactly the same anyway. LB will need replacing soon, and I really don't like the look of the centre-back pairing. Happy with the midfield though. Could really do with a decent alternative to Shrek too.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted December 12, 2013 Author Share Posted December 12, 2013 Was typing mine out and then realized that it's exactly the same anyway. LB will need replacing soon, and I really don't like the look of the centre-back pairing. Happy with the midfield though. Could really do with a decent alternative to Shrek too.... Baines and then Shaw will replace Cole, when you get past those two centre backs it's a worry. Maybe if Moyes plays Smalling or Jones there from xmas onwards, they may challenge those two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Baines and then Shaw will replace Cole, when you get past those two centre backs it's a worry. Maybe if Moyes plays Smalling or Jones there from xmas onwards, they may challenge those two. Smalling yes, but I don't think CB will be Jones' eventual position tbh. Personally I'd have given Shawcross more of a chance in friendlies, he's always looked solid for Stoke when he's got someone decent playing next to him. Shaw I think is a good call, but personally I don't really rate Baines. He's competant, but not outstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted December 12, 2013 Author Share Posted December 12, 2013 Smalling yes, but I don't think CB will be Jones' eventual position tbh. Personally I'd have given Shawcross more of a chance in friendlies, he's always looked solid for Stoke when he's got someone decent playing next to him. Shaw I think is a good call, but personally I don't really rate Baines. He's competant, but not outstanding. Not good enough for international football. imo Baines is good enough going forward, but he might end up like Prince Charles, waiting so long for someone older and better to retire and by the time they do a younger, brighter upstart will overshadow him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC_17 Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 international football is all about control, you have to have a good shape and balance to the team J.HART G.JOHNSON G.CAHILL P.JAGIELKA COLE P.JONES S.GERRARD A.TOWNSEND J.WILSHERE D.WELBECK W.ROONEY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Hart Jones Cahill Jagielka Baines Gerrard Wilshere Barkley Townsend Walcott Rooney Derby formation, with a similar tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted December 12, 2013 Author Share Posted December 12, 2013 international football is all about control, you have to have a good shape and balance to the team J.HART G.JOHNSON G.CAHILL P.JAGIELKA COLE P.JONES S.GERRARD A.TOWNSEND J.WILSHERE D.WELBECK W.ROONEY It's a good point and for 'that game' in Manuas I'd be tempted to play creative midfielders in the wide positions for 60/70 minutes and then unleash the speed merchants. 90C heat and 80% humidity then seeing Walcott and Townsend coming off the bench on 70 minutes would be scary, even for Italian full backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Not good enough for international football. imo Baines is good enough going forward, but he might end up like Prince Charles, waiting so long for someone older and better to retire and by the time they do a younger, brighter upstart will overshadow him Problem is, most of the current crop of centre backs aren't really good enough, especially when you scratch beyond the surface of the first pair. Baines, I'd describe as a 7/10 player. Again, not good enough for international football for me. Also the latest in a long line of fullbacks who are far more concerned with getting forward, and less about keeping the door shut at the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asanovic Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Forster Johnson Jagielka Cahill Baines Barry Gerrard Wilshere/Barkley Walcott Welbeck Rooney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needles Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Buxton Buxton Buxton Buxton Buxton Buxton Buxton Buxton Buxton Buxton Buxton 4 4 ******* 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Hart Walker Cahill Jagielka Baines Wilshere Carrick Barkley Lampard Lallanna Rooney Not a fan of Walker or Jagielka. Cole doesn't offer as much going forward as he did 2,3 years ago. I still rate Lampard as a tidy player with quality set pieces and a genuine goal threat. I'd stick with him and get rid of Gerrard's action man performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Forster Johnson Jagielka Cahill Baines Barry Gerrard Wilshere/Barkley Walcott Welbeck Rooney Looking at that team made me think of Everton. If i were Roberto Martinez i would buy Will Hughes for £12m cash up front, pair him in CM with Ross Barkley and have Gareth Barry looking after 'em in the Eustace position. Fook off Martinez if your reading this btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Suprised people rate Walcott. I just can't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Suprised people rate Walcott. I just can't see it. rather have Ox in the team. Or at least as cover for shrek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asanovic Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Looking at that team made me think of Everton. If i were Roberto Martinez i would buy Will Hughes for £12m cash up front, pair him in CM with Ross Barkley and have Gareth Barry looking after 'em in the Eustace position. Fook off Martinez if your reading this btw. Be some midfield, that. Always rated Barry. Bit of an unfashionable player in recent years but his ball retention is excellent and he does the simple things right. Unfortunately I don't think he'll ever live down the Germany game in 2010 but he's been one of the best English midfielders around this season. Re Walcott - don't rate him particularly highly but we're not blessed with wingers. For what it's worth I'd probably put Glen Johnson on the wing, he's quick and good going forward. Obviously won't happen though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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