Augustus

Hi fellow red ? #TakingOver

Hate to spoil the League 1 promotion party but I think you're in for a shock if you think it'll be easy to bounce straight back. Ipswich, Pompey, Sunderland, both Sheffield clubs, us and Leeds amongst others have found it (and still find it) very difficult to get out of. And that's without being in the state your squad will be in at the end of June.
I would also say that Rooney has a lot to prove, this season was win/win for him as he has been dealt an awful hand so any points at all are bonuses really. Next season you're one of the cup finals for most teams and regardless of how your squad looks you'll be considered favourites week in week out based on the name alone. Rooney has never managed when he's expected to win games so it'll be interesting to see if he can cope.

Our academy has been the consistent positive coming from the club over the past 20 years. It's up for debate whether the purpose of the academy is to produce a constant flow of players for the first team or players who can be sold for big money that keeps the club going. 
Forests ticks both boxes really. It has probably brought in £70/80m in revenue over that time and has produced loads of players for the first team. Worrall will be the next one sold I imagine. Or Mighten.
Over the last 6/7 years alone we've produced and then sold Bamford, Appiah, Brereton, Burke, Osborn, Cash, Darlow and Lascelles. And then you add in the golden generation of the late 90s, early 00s and it's one of the most prolific academies in the country this century.

Our academy has been the consistent positive coming from the club over the past 20 years. It's up for debate whether the purpose of the academy is to produce a constant flow of players for the first team or players who can be sold for big money that keeps the club going. 
Forests ticks both boxes really. It has probably brought in £70/80m in revenue over that time and has produced loads of players for the first team. Worrall will be the next one sold I imagine. Or Mighten.
Over the last 6/7 years alone we've produced and then sold Bamford, Appiah, Brereton, Burke, Osborn, Cash, Darlow and Lascelles. And then you add in the golden generation of the late 90s, early 00s and it's one of the most prolific academies in the country this century.

Self inflicted 'poor state'
Not the fault of the EFL or the other 23 clubs that we are in a poor state.

I wasn't a huge fan of Billeh (the man not the manager) but I can understand why some of the fans still fawn over him. Compared with basically every other manager we've had since Paul Hart in the early 00s he's done pretty well. Plus he clearly enjoyed getting one over on you lot which always endears a manager to the fans.
In fact on the subject...I can't be the only one who misses the good old days of about 10 years ago. When both sides seemed to be chocka with former players of the other, or players who were from the other city (Barker, Osborn etc) and both managers and staff were linked to the other side and clearly there was needle between them.
When I watched the game the other week it was just a non-event, not just because there were no fans but because the players were just detached from the event, there are no villains anymore like Camp, Commons, Savage or Tyson and apart from Rooney and Waghorn I'd barely heard of a single Derby player nevermind get angry just at their very presence on the screen.

I wasn't a huge fan of Billeh (the man not the manager) but I can understand why some of the fans still fawn over him. Compared with basically every other manager we've had since Paul Hart in the early 00s he's done pretty well. Plus he clearly enjoyed getting one over on you lot which always endears a manager to the fans.
In fact on the subject...I can't be the only one who misses the good old days of about 10 years ago. When both sides seemed to be chocka with former players of the other, or players who were from the other city (Barker, Osborn etc) and both managers and staff were linked to the other side and clearly there was needle between them.
When I watched the game the other week it was just a non-event, not just because there were no fans but because the players were just detached from the event, there are no villains anymore like Camp, Commons, Savage or Tyson and apart from Rooney and Waghorn I'd barely heard of a single Derby player nevermind get angry just at their very presence on the screen.

I wasn't a huge fan of Billeh (the man not the manager) but I can understand why some of the fans still fawn over him. Compared with basically every other manager we've had since Paul Hart in the early 00s he's done pretty well. Plus he clearly enjoyed getting one over on you lot which always endears a manager to the fans.
In fact on the subject...I can't be the only one who misses the good old days of about 10 years ago. When both sides seemed to be chocka with former players of the other, or players who were from the other city (Barker, Osborn etc) and both managers and staff were linked to the other side and clearly there was needle between them.
When I watched the game the other week it was just a non-event, not just because there were no fans but because the players were just detached from the event, there are no villains anymore like Camp, Commons, Savage or Tyson and apart from Rooney and Waghorn I'd barely heard of a single Derby player nevermind get angry just at their very presence on the screen.