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They changed the term global warming to climate change, because temperatures rising doesn’t necessarily mean the world gets hotter. The hotter parts get hotter, but the colder parts get colder. The ice caps melt, releasing more cold water into the oceans and reducing the temperature of the oceans, which screws up things like the Gulf Stream and other weather patterns. So our reasonably temperate weather will become more and more extreme, not to mention the rising sea levels making coastal regions uninhabitable. So it’s not quite as simple as ‘people who live in the Sahara can go move to the north pole’. Basically only the tropics will become habitable. Local flooding is more a local council issue to deal with. But global climate change is the root cause, and needs to be dealt with by collaborating governments. Which basically means it’ll never be dealt with, so we have to rely on local councils to fight fires (and floods) as they arise, and they will get worse and worse. But there’s a reasonable argument to say that’s not a bad approach the time for global collaboration and nipping this in the bud has past, so maybe the right answer now is to deal with each problem locally, as it arises. Some will fair better than others, but it’s basically every man / community for himself at this point. Welcome to the dystopia.

Maybe his TikTok shenanigans boosted their morale just enough to help them secure survival. Could’ve been a genius move by all concerned.

Jesse Lingard’s career ending decision: 📸 https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/25075099/jesse-lingard-offers-newcastle-fulham-nottingham-forest/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=sunfootballfacebook090124&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR2KChNPvdMcbnT2E0uNgd9-GNzA7IaFYJsV9RHd-QddvKQ2mLRg-2vJpiU_aem_ASxIhxAjdbBAiquUfrVDJa1dtLpvyerv64sWBlAb59J3ksqvpvu_risWCUCDynKF-c0#Echobox=1704730428 to summarise, he was offered two four year contracts from Newcastle and Fulham. He chose a one year contract at Forest. Which has effectively ended his career. Forest, where crap footballers go to get crapper.

Liam Rosenior was a good pundit.

That’s probably got more to do with getting the highlights on you tube, with no punditry at all. I’m sure ratings are dropping left right and centre, to be fair, with people watching TV on demand instead. I haven’t watched normal TV in yonks, but that’s just me. I dare say people either like punditry or they don’t. I suspect most people have stronger thoughts about that, than who the pundits actually are.

Point still stands though, as long as the ratings are up, the producers are happy. And it certainly implies that the majority of the viewers are happy. Don’t like it, don’t watch it.

Ultimately, the great decider is the ratings. If the ratings tank, then the producers will change the pundits and presenters. If the ratings continue, then they won’t. Maybe there’s just not enough men that are bothered enough to switch off, but lots of women are bothered enough to switch on, so the ratings go up. Joey Barton is a vocal minority. But maybe the majority don’t actually mind, or care.

Bet you’d be low cost with lots of experience too.

It is a delicate balance. But everyone that argues against this positive discrimination seems to think that it’s going to directly affect their kids’ prospects. In the grand scheme of things, Sol Campbell getting an interview for a managers job, or Eni Aluko on the tele is not going to make a difference to the average person’s job prospects either way. i have sons and daughters. I don’t feel like my daughters having more opportunities specifically means my sons have less opportunities. I’m not worried about that at all. I’m just glad my daughters have more opportunities in a fairer society. positive discrimination is not going to bring down society. It will bring more positivity than negativity, but the joey Barton’s of this world would have you believe it’s the end of the world. the other problem is, people are too quick to say ‘I didn’t get that job, some black lady with one arm got it because they had to tick a box, I’m against positive discrimination.’ It doesn’t work like that. The black lady with one arm is just better at the job, but people are too willing to blame society for their own deficiencies. joey Barton will miss out for a managerial role to a black manager, and he’ll blame society, not considering he might just be a shot manager (unless it’s Paul ince, then there’s something dodgy going on).

But then you still had Jim Crow, and the tulsa massacre. And Rosa Parks and segregation. Some people will never accept a change to status quo, when the status quo benefitted them.

That’s some dodgy as f*** lawyering. Imagine being a lawyer claiming a mistrial because the beaten up lady won’t testify. I bet they sleep soundly on a pile of money.

That is a problem. Even if things were completely in proportion, there would be a lot of old white men, no longer the kings of the castle. As someone gains power and agency, someone else always loses it, and those people aren’t happy. Slave owners in the American south weren’t too happy after the civil war. I’d say ‘but they got over it,’ but they didn’t really. It’s never fixed. Like I said, antibiotics, it might seem fixed, but follow doctors orders, complete the course of antibiotics, or the illness comes back with a vengeance. id say the full course for this issue is like 20 years of people like yourself saying it’s already better. When discussions like this don’t even exist. Then we can probably stop taking the antibiotics.

So it’s working. Yet Joey Barton still exists.

It’s weird, it’s like you’re arguing against me, but proving my point at the same time. a white kid, or a white male kid from a happy family, is statistically more likely to find it easier to find well paid jobs and have a happy successful life. have you never seen that exercise where they give kids a head start on a race if they meet certain criteria and there’s some poor kids still sat on the start line when some others get a 50m head start. thats the advantage your kids have. I don’t know you or your kids, maybe there are other reasons that they are disadvantaged, but even if a white kid has dyslexia, for example, they’ll still find life easier than a black kid with dyslexia. There are just generally a lot less barriers in the way for white kids. Maybe it’s not about having an advantage, it’s about not having hurdles to jump over. So a better analogy is two people running 100m, but one has hurdles on his track. It’s no fault of the other person, but it’s clearly not fair. yes, if your white male kid goes for a job as a football pundit, and they’re up against a black female candidate, and they’re equal in every way, but the company needs to tick a box, your kid might miss out. That’s just a fact of redressing the balance. As I explained with the scales, there has to be some disproportionate representation to enable minorities to catch up. As with many things, past generations have screwed it up for our kids. It’s not a perfect situation. But if you were a black family, or if one of your kids comes out as transgender in the future, wouldn’t you fight tooth and nail to allow them to have the same opportunities as anyone else? There doesn’t need to be campaigns for representation down coal mines, the point is to enable kids to aspire to anything they want to be. Imagine if there was a campaign that said ‘if you work really hard, maybe you can aspire to be a dust man’ (no offence to dust men). Lower paid jobs and manual labour are already open to all, ahead of their time really. Probably over represented by minorities. That’s specifically the imbalance that needs to be redressed.

Of course we see people in the street, at work, at school of different minorities all the time these days. It’s about representing them in attainable positions. Like it or not, your kids were born with an advantage over their minority class mates. And the fact that Ian Wright is a pundit with two women, doesn’t reduce that advantage. But it does let little black boys and girls see that there is hope for them, they can attain and have the same ambitions as anyone else. As I said, I like to think I don’t see colour, I don’t care either way, and I’m positive my kids certainly don’t. And isn’t that great. But it’s like taking anti biotics even after you start feeling better. Or advertising for Pepsi (we all know what Pepsi is now, why do they spend so much on marketing). If this awareness raising just suddenly stopped then we’d quite quickly be back to square one. It’ll take a generation of effort before it can start to dial back. and joey’s comments just help to set it back. 2 steps forward, 1 step back. So guess what, as long as there are people like joey Barton, and people liking and perpetuating his messages, the problem isn’t fixed, and there will be initiatives against it. And if one thing doesn’t work, they’ll try another. Over representation of minorities might not be the answer. But they’ll keep trying things. And I’ll tell you what, things like doctor who, super girl, more representation of women in football etc. it has helped to normalise it in my head, and it has helped my kids to normalise it. So I genuinely think it does help. If you watch super girl, you’d think that every second person in metropolis is somewhere in the rainbow spectrum. It’s clearly over represented. But before long, it’s not a thing anymore, they’re just characters. And that’s fine. it was a bit weird when I heard my first female commentator. But now it genuinely doesn’t even register with me. They all know more than me, so it’s all good insight.

That’s the point. Representation isn’t proportional. It’s meant to skew the balance. That’s not a mistake, that’s part of the design. As I said, it’s about giving the under represented communities a chance to catch up. The kids of today don’t need to see white men on tv. There’s plenty of those. They’ve been seeing those for generations. its not that if 10% of the population are black, we have 1 out of every 10 pundits is black. That’s not how it works. It’s about flooding our screens with positive images of black people, to try to make a dent in the generations of negative images we’ve seen so far. Then, eventually, when people genuinely don’t see colour, gender etc. there won’t be a need for things like the Rooney rule and reverse racism and box ticking. But that will take a generation. meanwhile, lots of white men get butt hurt because they’re living in the era when they (we, as I am one) are being represented as a minority. And guess what, it’s not very nice, and we don’t like it much. well I think we can put up with it for a generation to bring everything back into balance again. oo, I just thought of an analogy. So if there are 1 in 10 of a certain minority, for 100 years we should have been seeing every 10th person on tv is of that minority. But that’s not been happening. So imagine a scale where we’ve been putting 10 white men in one side, every day for 100 years. How many of the minority do we have to put on the other side to bring those scales into balance? Not so it’s even, but just so that it’s all in the correct proportion. Just putting 1 in 10 on the minority side isn’t going to do it.

What’s wrong with a box ticking exercise though? It’s about representation. It would be nice to say ‘let it happen organically’, but you have to force the issue sometimes and force representation to kick start it. In a generations time, hopefully it will be organic. The backlash these days is because it’s forced. But that’s necessary to make things happen and break the cycle. I've got daughters, and there is so much more positive representation for them these days than when my sisters were kids. And I’m very happy about that. i wonder if joey Barton has daughters or nieces, and if he expects them to shut up and cook his dinner, or if he hopes for something better for them. its just very sad that as much as he may truly believe these things, what he’s really doing is putting on a character, like a heel in wrestling, because that panders to a certain audience, and that gets more likes and shares. And far from representing those that need the leg up, he gives a voice and representation to the bigots and small minded people who have ruled the world for thousands of years. Those that really need to fade away and make way for the kids.

Our point against them doesn’t look so bad now.

How annoying. We have the joint best goal difference in the league. And the second highest goals for in the league. It just so happens that the the other team with the best goal difference and with the best goals for in the league, is the one we’re level with.

The problem was he did know how it worked. The FA didn’t.

“13 weeks was not sufficient to oversee the changes”. I don’t get it, what changes needed to be made. They were 6th. You just go in and say ‘what did you do last week? Brilliant, do the same again this week, I’ll be in my office if anyone needs me.” Easy. the definition of ‘if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it’.

Was it Rowett they sacked in favour of Zola. I’m guessing these are different owners at this stage. I find it crazy and hilarious that they’ve managed to make the same mistake twice. You might be on to something with it being a villa conspiracy.

Keys to the city is back on. Great job well done Wayne.

I thought you said they shouldn’t move to a lower prem team.

So is that a case of Forest becoming world beaters with a pinch of Nuno, or United being s*** like they have been all season. the few points they’ve got, they’ve been lucky to get.