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For those who think that these insurance bets are traitorous, how do you feel about supporters who actively damage the team's moral by booing them off the pitch or more commonly slagging individual players off on social media? Those are 2 things which get to me, I'll criticise a player with my mates but never on social media or forums, where it is likely to harm team moral.

What!!!!!! Just settling for the play offs, a club of our size? Surely, it needs to be top 2 at the very least.😉 After all, the championship will be the weakest it's ever been with the big clubs going up and replaced with traditional championship clubs. If Warne can't get is in the autos against that lot, he needs to go. 😉

Yes, I just don't see the problem with it. I don't want Derby to lose, I'll be there cheering them on as much as anyone else on Saturday, in spite of not winning a few bob on the game. None of my actions will have any detrimental effect on Derby's chances of getting automatic promotion. As it happens it's not even my money, thanks to the joining offers, you put a first bet on an odds on match, get your money back, then put the bookies' bonus on Bolton, so I haven't put a penny of my money against Derby, technically. I'm comfortable with it, those who aren't, then don't do it.

So, from what you're saying there, is that every player who plays for a relegated club, isn't good enough for that division? Nelson only signed for Blackpool in the January window, when they were already in the bottom 3.

There's a subtle difference depending on how much you stand to win and how it affects your support of the team on Saturday. On the one hand some of us are taking advantage of the ridiculous odds offered by the bookies, in order to ease the pain if things go wrong on Saturday. Where it goes into the traitor territory is if you bet enough money whereby you actually want Derby to mess up. Like many moral decisions we all have a price. If someone offered anyone on here a free £100k bet on Derby missing out on the autos, I suspect that we would all put up with the play offs and take our chances. If you look at it from one point view, a fan who has put £100 on to win £10,000 and is still cheering on the Rams on Saturday, is proving their loyalty to the Rams because they're willing the team to win even though it's costing them £10,000.

You're confusing the bet that's relevant to Saturday. They are 6/4 to go up, but that includes the play offs, which they would be favourites for. They are still 100/1 for the autos which would deny us. There is a scenario whereby Derby could win the play offs and you would still win your 100/1 bet.

Coventry coming within a toenail of reaching the FA Cup final gives us all hope that with a bit or a lot of luck, one day we could make the final, then who knows what could happen in a one off game?

Correct, I didn't read his proposal properly.🙄 Regarding the finalists having a long break, I think that any third placed club would rather go straight to a Wembley final rather than one or two play off semi finals, beforehand.

I've been saying that this should happen for many years. It has so many advantages over the current unfair system. It rewards every single place from third to sixth, with each place having a better chance of promotion than the place behind. It will help reduce the likelyhood of dead rubber games where a team can rest players like last night. It maintains the spirit and excitement of the playoffs in every game, as they're all sudden death, whereas now there is an anti climax at the end of the first legs. I cannot understand why this format hasn't even been trialled for one season.

I can't believe those odds are still available, for just 2 results.

I've seen that one poster has gambled £100 on Derby not going up, which would result in winnings of over £10k. I'm sure that a number of us have had a little bet at the ridiculous odds that have been offered, to soften the blow. How much 'compensation' would make up for suffering another year in league 1?

The useless EFL have already let this kind of thing go. On the last day of the 21/22 season, Northampton were ahead of Bristol Rovers on goal difference. Northampton did their job by beating Barrow 3-1. This meant that Bristol Rovers needed to win by 7 against Scunthorpe, the result was 7 nil and Bristol were promoted on goals scored. Already relegated Scunthorpe fielded a team consisting of 7 teenagers including 4 from their u18s and a first year scholar in goal. I can't find any details of any punishment for Scunthorpe. If Scunthorpe ever get back in the EFL, they should have points deducted, in my opinion. Poetic justice that they crashed through the National League.

It's disgraceful, doing that against a team fighting against relegation. I'm sure that Burton and Cambridge won't be happy. It looks likely that we'll definitely need a point on Saturday.

I stand corrected.😊

As I've previously pointed out Warne's last relegation with Rotherham was with a team with the lowest budget in the Championship and if that wasn't bad enough, they actually made an operating profit that season and a profit on player sales. I think that many top managers would struggle under those circumstances. His budget at Derby will be competitive with most teams in the division and I would be very surprised if he was forced to make a net profit on player sales next season.