Curtains Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 In 26 man squad for CR Friendly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 I don't understand this at all, quite simply the second best Republic of Ireland midfielder in our team, how he makes the team is beyond me! Good luck to him but Hendrick should be in the team over him all day long! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Best midfielder we have IMO, we only won 6 games without him in the previous 2 seasons, I just wish he would be played in his proper position, what does Giovanni Trapattoni know though, its not like he has ever won anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p.shilton Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 he obviosly wasn't being watched vs Reading- he was shocking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Best midfielder we have IMO, we only won 6 games without him in the previous 2 seasons, I just wish he would be played in his proper position, what does Giovanni Trapattoni know though, its not like he has ever won anything. I would strongly disagree for me our 4th best centre midfielder behind Bryson, Bailey and Hendrick... his work rate however makes him an asset, very rarely goes through 'bad spells' because he works so hard and his game doesn't rely on things 'clicking' he is a trier.. Ben Davies on his day is head and shoulders above Green for me in terms of quality, but as previously stated his work rate gets him around! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsilks Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Best midfielder we have IMO, we only won 6 games without him in the previous 2 seasons, I just wish he would be played in his proper position, what does Giovanni Trapattoni know though, its not like he has ever won anything. Clearly he thinks he knows something that eludes every Championship and Premiership manager as well as all other managers in Europes leagues as none of them were willing to part with any cash during the transfer window for the players services. Any club could have bought the player had they wanted to show Derby upwards of 500k and around the 9k in salary but no one did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Clearly he thinks he knows something that eludes every Championship and Premiership manager as well as all other managers in Europes leagues as none of them were willing to part with any cash during the transfer window for the players services. Any club could have bought the player had they wanted to show Derby upwards of 500k and around the 9k in salary but no one did. As we didn't even bother taking him to Barnsley shows how much we rate him here, I think a sum of around 200k+ (if that) would of been ample! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 As we didn't even bother taking him to Barnsley shows how much we rate him here, I think a sum of around 200k+ (if that) would of been ample! Was that the game where we were 3-0 down in the first half, yes didnt need him. As someone has pointed out, 200k when you can get him for free come summer ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 question is, how much will it cost to get someone to replace him? £500K? £750K or more? and if we don't find someone similar, then we'll possibly need three players to cover right-back, right-mid, and centre-mid, so it becomes even more expensive. The argument that he's crap so get rid seems to ignore the basic rule of football that it's about building a winning team rather than getting together a collection of the best players (something that successive England managers seem to have struggled with as well)..to my mind, we're a better team with Green in there than we are without him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Ram Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 As we didn't even bother taking him to Barnsley shows how much we rate him here, I think a sum of around 200k+ (if that) would of been ample! We didn't take him to Oakwell and look what happened. Bailey was shocking against Southampton, Ben Davies has had some very poor games, Hendrick has flattered to deceive in a couple of games and even Ward was diabolical in the first half at Barnsley (as were most of the team to be fair). It is easy to comment in performances in individual games and therefore it is better to look at long term performance with or without certain individuals in the squad. When you do this, as has been quoted by Leeds Ram, the facts are quite suprising and show only a handful of wins when Green didn't play. Maybe, just maybe, Trapattoni does know something and better still, maybe our Nige sees this as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 But Conor Doyle didn't play against Barnsley... and he didn't play against Southampton either! Therefore he would of been instrumental in us winning them games... clough out! being 3-0 down at half time at Barnsley had feck all to do with Green not being there, just as it had nothing to do with Doyle not being there nor Tyson...etc I like Green because of his work rate, but as for quality on the ball.. he is league one at best, his engine makes him a decent championship utility man i.e squad member! Hate to say it but as we're playing him in the first 11 shows we're out of form and short on quality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p.shilton Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Was that the game where we were 3-0 down in the first half, yes didnt need him. Made a massive impact when he did play in the last few games didn't he? Oh, wait no- he was ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randombc Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Be great if we could keep hold of him, but can see someone like Wolves taking him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Best midfielder we have IMO, we only won 6 games without him in the previous 2 seasons, I just wish he would be played in his proper position, what does Giovanni Trapattoni know though, its not like he has ever won anything. you sure about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 you sure about that? This season we have won 7 games without him, last season we won 2 without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 This season we have won 7 games without him, last season we won 2 without him. 9 games without him then. Still a pretty decent statistic in his favour... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 9 games without him then. Still a pretty decent statistic in his favour... We have had better record in general with him in the side, last season win% without Green was 13%! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Made a massive impact when he did play in the last few games didn't he? Oh, wait no- he was ****. Remind me again where he played in those games, CM ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 you sure about that? When he was played as a CM 2010-11 W2 D2 L7 2009-10 W4 D3 L10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p.shilton Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Remind me again where he played in those games, CM ???? Doesn't really matter where he plays as long as it wasn't in goal- when a player is at the edge of the opposition box and has the chance to put a cross in he shouldn't check back on himself three times and then not even attempt to cross. Brayford doesn't seem to struggle and it should be second nature to a midfielder. Against Reading his passing was absolutely shocking, barely completing at all. Irrespective of what position you are playing, as a professional footballer you should be able to pass the ball 5 yards to a team mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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