james_ram Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 Rangers and Celtic. Are they still Protestants vs Catholics? Because all you hear on Celtic forums etc that they are a 'club for everyone' but then there's all this sectarianism. Plus, it annoyed me when Commons said today that the Celtic fans are "the best in the world" and "that's why people come from all over the world to watch them" but surely, if all they did is sing about Catholicism then why would people want to associate with them if they're not Catholics themselves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorksopRam Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 Lots of people hate Celtic and quite a few like Rangers, but a fair few hate them too. I just don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_ram Posted May 21, 2011 Author Share Posted May 21, 2011 Lots of people hate Celtic and quite a few like Rangers, but a fair few hate them too. I just don't get it. So who's more popular? I don't get it either :L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorksopRam Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 So who's more popular? I don't get it either :L No idea, I'm stumped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hucknall Ram Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 If green your favourite colour then you like Celtic If blue your favourite colour then you like Rangers And if it's another colour you don't give a ****. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p.shilton Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 You find that catholics like Celtic and protestants like rangers. It is ridiculous, end of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekkie_ram Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 As bizarre as it sounds., Celtic are an Irish club, Rangers are a British club, hence the large number of relevant flags at each teams games. Being English I'd consider myself a Rangers fan, but TBH I don't really care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Prefer Rangers to Celtic but I also prefer Valencia to Real Mallorca. Both irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p.shilton Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 As bizarre as it sounds., Celtic are an Irish club, Rangers are a British club, hence the large number of relevant flags at each teams games. Being English I'd consider myself a Rangers fan, but TBH I don't really care. erm, I knew that there were heavy irish influences but how can they be irish when they are scottish? I'm confused:oops: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Always preferred Rangers myself, and always look out for their results. Stems from growing up during Rangers' '9-in-a-row'. Some great sides during those years and some great football. Even did well in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p.shilton Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Always preferred Rangers myself, and always look out for their results. Stems from growing up during Rangers' '9-in-a-row'. Some great sides during those years and some great football. Even did well in Europe. yep, don't think those days will be returning any time soon. I would say its a shame but it isn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UTR.93 Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 from what i make of it, my Grandad being a Scot and on the Rangers side. The majority of it is all religion, many Celtic don't consider themselves to be part of the UK but are Irish, hense why Neil Lennon get's these attacks alot because he is from Northern Ireland (protestant residence, Kyle Lafferty and Steve Davis play for Rangers and would most likely get the same if they played for Celtic and not Rangers) and Celtic are Catholic being the Irish connection. Rangers very much consider to be part of the UK with flags everywhere you see. So feck the dirty irish gits up the Gers [sIZE=3]Please forgive for my poorly constructed explaination but i hope some understand why the two of them have so much hatred[/sIZE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roofio Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 At a push I'd say I prefered Rangers but I'd love to go to an Old Firm game. The atmosphere always seems electric! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekkie_ram Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 Backs up what I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfcdavecov Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 http://c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000qLtQrLayk28/s/700/WV1-Rangers-v-Aberdeen http://blairgowriersc.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/559337-3 Or: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00031/lennon_31788t http://www.caledonian-comment.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/celtic About sums them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkRam Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 They're all bloody Christian for crying out loud. Why is humans have to find a way to hate each other? Even when we agree on something we argue about how you hey to the conclusion weather its football, religion or directions across a bloody town.. absolutely ridiculous IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfcdavecov Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 No we don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike1969 Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 For old firm explanations think history and politics! The history of Scotland is intertwined with that of Ireland. British rule in Ireland going back many 100's of years resulted in many political actions that still influence the mindset of the people even today. e.g. Rich Scottish protestant "planters" were given land at the expense of Catholic peasants. This contributed to the demographics of the entire island of Ireland that led to the country being divided and ultimately the troubles from the late 60's and to a degree still until today. It is true that nearly all of Ireland south of the border follow Celtic. In Northern Ireland there is huge support for both Rangers and Celtic which is split unsurprisingly on demographic grounds - protestant and catholic. It is not a surprise that some of the threats made to Neil Lennon originated in Co. Antrim in N. Ireland. As an Englishman living in Ireland it never ceases to amaze me how football remains a metaphor for politics. People assume that you have to follow one or the other and can be surprised to hear that you couldnt actually care less. I get dumb looks when I say "why would I be interested in Glasgow football when I am from Derby!" Dont try and understand all of the reasoning behind this - if it was that easy Ireland would have been at peace many years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackNwhites Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 900 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2tups Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 And also the population growth of Ireland in the early 19th century. Subsequent failure of the crop that fuelled the workers. Which lead to mass emigration to manual labour intensive employers across the waters. Which is why Liverpool and Middlesbrough grew so rapidly and each have an Irish inflection to the accent to this day. And why thousands of Irish catholics came to Glasgow and to a lesser Edinburgh and Dundee. With clubs formed to provide an active social life in East Glasgow, Leith and Dundee (Utd). The history and tradition of which gives their local derbies an extra element of passion. And a huge policing bill several times a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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