davenportram Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 ...the football league did when ITV Digital ent belly side up. The european courts are looking into the exclusive broadcasting rights that the FA sell to see if they breach European free trade laws. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11452434 The landlady in question was charged and found not guilty by the courts of breach of copyright law by broadcasting a Greek sattellite channel. LKate ron sh was charged again but found guilty for the second (same) offence. She appealed based on her previous let off and has taken her appeal all the way to the European Court. If the courts decide that the FA has no right to say that SKY is the only company allowed to broadcast certain football matches then the value of UK broadcasting rights will drop and the main income stream for the Premierleague will also drop. Worth keeping an eye on this one I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex W Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 That's very interesting indeed, I wonder if we'd be better off if it did come crashing down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Potentially disaster for SKY. No wonder Rupert Murdoch was Cameron's first visitor at no10. Payback for Rupe's papers backing the Tories? I'd be very surprised to see the ECJ rule against the Murdoch empire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerous Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 I am aware of the details of this law.When I get half an hour I will inform you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hucknall Ram Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 The thing am more worried about is that the smaller lower league clubs will suffer, look at pompy and Cardiff, massive debts and carry on, ilkeston 50k debt and wound up in the courts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Will we miss Cardiff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted October 15, 2010 Author Share Posted October 15, 2010 Will we miss Cardiff? I will, No Cardiff No Doctor Who Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Will we miss Cardiff? like I say then:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted October 15, 2010 Author Share Posted October 15, 2010 like I say then:rolleyes: but it keeps the kids quiet on a Saturday night.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 but it keeps the kids quiet on a Saturday night.......... Derby losing keeps our kids quiet on a Saturday night, they know not to bother me. Even the cat keeps out the way, it don't like my size 10 up it's jacksy. Not in a bestiality way of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoko Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 that would be a huge blow for sky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perky1106 Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 What's illegal about watching football from foreign TV stations, if you're paying for it? It's just greed from Sky and the PL who want loads of money. :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted October 17, 2010 Author Share Posted October 17, 2010 Its because SKY and ESPN are supposed to be the only providers i nthe UK and there is a blackout on broadcasting at 3pm on a Saturday which foriegn stations do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 You have to have licence to broadcast to the public, if you watch Soccer AM they can't always show footage they want to show as they have to pay a stupid fee to the company that holds the broadcasting rights for that match. It's the same with music, radio stations can't just go and buy a CD from HMV and whack it on, they need a licence from the record label. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perky1106 Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 You have to have licence to broadcast to the public, if you watch Soccer AM they can't always show footage they want to show as they have to pay a stupid fee to the company that holds the broadcasting rights for that match. It's the same with music, radio stations can't just go and buy a CD from HMV and whack it on, they need a licence from the record label. Music is different though. Record labels are keen to let radio stations play their music without paying for it, because by it getting airplay, it's getting free advertising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 You still have to pay to broadcast the music, even YouTube has to pay royalties. --------------------------------------------------------- YouTube has agreed to pay royalties for songs used in videos on the site, in a deal that means music publishers will treat it much as they do radio stations. The video-sharing site struck an agreement with a society that collect royalties on behalf of more than 50,000 composers, song-writers and publishers, meaning that videos using their music as a soundtrack will no longer be infringing copyright. YouTube will pay a flat fee - the amount of which has not been disclosed - to license more than ten million pieces of music in the "first fully formed agreement" of its kind, according to Steve Porter, chief executive of the royalty-collecting MCPS-PRS Alliance. The decision about how to divide up the fee, which will be similar to the one paid by radio and television broadcasters, will be based on an estimate of what music has been played on the site, the MCPS-PRS said. The agreement will go some way towards reassuring content owners, who have been concerned about the amount of material that appears illegally on YouTube and which does not generate any revenue for its creators. All four major record labels have now made licensing deals which mean they take a share of the advertising revenue when YouTube carries their music, but this is the first deal which ensures that revenue will also be collected on behalf of song-writers and publishers. Media companies wanting to use songs must typically negotiate separate licensing deals with record labels, which own the copyright in recordings, and publishers, which own copyright in the words and melodies. The National Music Publishers Association - a similar organisation to the MCPS-PRS in the US - recently joined a class-action lawsuit against YouTube accusing it of copyright infringement. The MCPS-PRS, which counts among its members the four largest publishers - EMI, Sony/ATV, Universal/BMG, and Warner/Chappell - said it would work with YouTube to improve the technology used to monitor songs used in videos on the site, and that initially it would focus on clips which attract the highest audiences. "We're more interested in videos that are played three million times rather than three times," Andrew Shaw, the managing director for broadcast and online at the MCPS-PRS, said. "Logic would dictate that you start with the high volume videos and work your way down to the long tail." The MCPS-PRS deal covers publishers based in the UK and elsewhere, but is only applicable to royalties which stem from clips watched by YouTube users in the UK. YouTube, which is owned by Google, is undertood to be negotiating similar deals with collecting societies in other territories. http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/the_web/article2355094.ece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 Wilkopops better send his cheque off to youtube. Any You uploads are free of music, so are not effected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOrdinary Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 is true about the licence, even we have to have a licence to play a radio at work cause we have customers listening to it...bloomin crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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