Bridgford Ram Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 I started thinking - far to much - about how the clock change actually works. I must have been through 80 of these and never really thought about it, especially now when most of the clocks in the house change themselves. I have always sort of known that the clock change happens at 2pm, but what is it happens? More and more business is international and 24:7 meaning that a time in the UK that was previously a time everyone was in bed is now probably important for lots of reasons. Looking at Sky+ it seems the time gets to 2pm and then goes back to 1pm and does that hour again. If you are working the night do you have to work an hour extra in October but an hour less in March? Do people on medicines just include the extra hour and adjust their times the next day? How do countries that don't have a concept of daylight saving cope with the fact we will have two 1.30ams tomorrow? Or am I just thinking about it too much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 8 minutes ago, Bridgford Ram said: I started thinking - far to much - about how the clock change actually works. I must have been through 80 of these and never really thought about it, especially now when most of the clocks in the house change themselves. I have always sort of known that the clock change happens at 2pm, but what is it happens? More and more business is international and 24:7 meaning that a time in the UK that was previously a time everyone was in bed is now probably important for lots of reasons. Looking at Sky+ it seems the time gets to 2pm and then goes back to 1pm and does that hour again. If you are working the night do you have to work an hour extra in October but an hour less in March? Do people on medicines just include the extra hour and adjust their times the next day? How do countries that don't have a concept of daylight saving cope with the fact we will have two 1.30ams tomorrow? Or am I just thinking about it too much? I think you're thinking too much mate.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozza Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Still think it's wrong to change 'em , do any other countries do it , or just us ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Not sure if you are thinking too much or drinking too little. If in doubt, assume the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 5 minutes ago, mozza said: Still think it's wrong to change 'em , do any other countries do it , or just us ? https://www.timeanddate.com/time/dst/2016.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozza Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 2 minutes ago, eddie said: https://www.timeanddate.com/time/dst/2016.html Thanks for that , eddie , i'll study that @ 2am and by the time i've done that it will be 2am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Le Mesmer Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 I think it's important to think about seemingly random things so good on you Bridgford for putting it out there. Our minds need more than X Factor and celebrities. As for your query though I've got no idea but I myself was talking about time today on the way down to game when my other half mentioned the clocks going back and her saying we get an extra hour in bed. I said that essentially time is a man made ideology and thus doesn't actually exist. Who decided there is to be 24 hours in a day? 60 minutes in an hour. Time cannot be measured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozza Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 I'm sure some clever bod could work out the exact hours,minutes,seconds in a year and divide them up more accurately so as there would be no need to alter the clocks twice a year, summat like 23 hours , 59 minutes 37 seconds per day as an example.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highgate Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 1 hour ago, mozza said: I'm sure some clever bod could work out the exact hours,minutes,seconds in a year and divide them up more accurately so as there would be no need to alter the clocks twice a year, summat like 23 hours , 59 minutes 37 seconds per day as an example.. there is no need anyway.....lots of countries don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskination Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 How about people who are born on 29th February? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskination Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 6 hours ago, Tony Le Mesmer said: I think it's important to think about seemingly random things so good on you Bridgford for putting it out there. Our minds need more than X Factor and celebrities. As for your query though I've got no idea but I myself was talking about time today on the way down to game when my other half mentioned the clocks going back and her saying we get an extra hour in bed. I said that essentially time is a man made ideology and thus doesn't actually exist. Who decided there is to be 24 hours in a day? 60 minutes in an hour. Time cannot be measured. Nope, x factor et al is it. No more working the pubs and clubs, networking, being part of a culture, being in the hub, musician mates down town, managers in the know, local scene etc. It's three people sat at a table who will tell you if you are good or not. If they say no, it's time to put that microphone down and get some extra shifts in at Asda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgford Ram Posted October 30, 2016 Author Share Posted October 30, 2016 The extra hour in bed thing doesn't work for me, it just means that I wake up at 4.30 worrying about stuff instead of 5.30. Was anyone on the forum at the time it happened? What happens to plus 1 TV channels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 I hate it, i look forward to the end of march when we move them forward again. Lets just have CET and have done with it. Rather have extra light in the evenings than morning any day and in the summer so much day light is wasted, its light at 4am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ketteringram Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Re working nights. Worked many of the clock change nights over the years. Yes, you work an extra hour, or an hour less in spring. Some places split it, and get the day shift to start half hour earlier just for the Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 1 hour ago, Paul71 said: I hate it, i look forward to the end of march when we move them forward again. Lets just have CET and have done with it. Rather have extra light in the evenings than morning any day and in the summer so much day light is wasted, its light at 4am. Try saying that to the agricultural and farming industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 10 minutes ago, Mafiabob said: Try saying that to the agricultural and farming industry. Thats what i was always told...yet it would seem its not really the case, modern farming methods dont rely on the daylight like they used to it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Just now, Paul71 said: Thats what i was always told...yet it would seem its not really the case, modern farming methods dont rely on the daylight like they used to it seems. I've got 3 young kids to get to school down one of the busiest roads in Derby..... think hundreds of kids going to same school in dark would be a big issue too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, Mafiabob said: I've got 3 young kids to get to school down one of the busiest roads in Derby..... think hundreds of kids going to same school in dark would be a big issue too. There is an argument that having extra light in the evenings for the daily commute home is safer than having it in the mornings. I appreciate school children come home generally outside of the normal commute anyway so maybe the argument doesnt apply as much for them. More people are injured during evening rush hour than morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 It's a big issue in the IT industry where you have 24x7 batch processing of jobs. We essentially have to suspend all processing for an hour, otherwise you do indeed end up with situations where job A and job B run one after the other but job B ends up with an earlier time stamp. And that is bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 If you ask me I'm not for all the putting clocks forward , backwards, forwards, backwards. Some say it's so farmer's can toss a few cows off in the morning. I don't see why I should follow suit . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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