Chris Mills Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Looking at the players we're bringing in and the fact we have offloaded Eustace I think there is a chance we could be using the 433 formation less than we have seen previously. Here feel free to discuss/suggest any formations and possible line ups (You can add players that we haven't signed yet but believe we will). I'd personally like to see a 4222 formation played against weaker opposition such as:CarsonChristie Keogh Pearce ForsythHughes ThorneInce WeimannBent MartinThen when required we can resort to a slightly more defensive/433 option of:CarsonChristie Keogh Pearce WarnockThorneHughes HendrickInce WeimannMartinHow about a 5 at the back?:CarsonChristie Keogh Pearce Buxton ForsythThorne HughesInceMartin Bent3 at the back?:CarsonKeogh Pearce BuxtonHendrick Hughes Thorne RussellInce WeimannMartinWhat other formations do you think could work and in the ones I have picked who would you swap in/out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLACML Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 4231Grant, Christie, Forsyth, Keogh, Buxton, Thorne, Hughes, Dawkins Russell, Weimann, MartinPossibly Ince and Shackell to add Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Mills Posted June 19, 2015 Author Share Posted June 19, 2015 4231Grant, Christie, Forsyth, Keogh, Buxton, Thorne, Hughes, Dawkins Russell, Weimann, MartinPossibly Ince and Shackell to addPlease Clement, no Dawkins for the love of god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 4-2-3-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLACML Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Please Clement, no Dawkins for the love of god.Care to justify or are you just gonna stick to the dramatic statements? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Please Clement, no Dawkins for the love of god.Agreed. Not good enough at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Mills Posted June 19, 2015 Author Share Posted June 19, 2015 Care to justify or are you just gonna stick to the dramatic statements?I find him frustrating to watch. I feel like he kills our momentum quite often when going forward. Admittedly he would be better starting than coming on as an "impact sub" as Steve Mclean seemingly liked to use him, but whenever I think of him all that I can picture in my head is us breaking down the wing only for him to pass it back to the half way line leaving us with 9 or 10 men behind the ball to beat again.He's good at retaining the ball and he has his moments of brilliance. But I don't think that he is anywhere near the levels of Ince and Weimann and I think that Russell is a better player (or at least a more positive player). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Grant, Forsyth, Pearce, Shackell, Christie, Thorne, Hughes, Bryson, Ince, Weimann, MartinSubs: Carson, Buxton, Baird, Hendrick, Dawkins, Russell, Bent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Grant, Forsyth, Pearce, Shackell, Christie, Thorne, Hughes,Hendrick, Ince, Weimann, MartinSubs: Carson, Buxton, Baird, Bennett, Warnock, Russell, Bent Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLACML Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 I find him frustrating to watch. I feel like he kills our momentum quite often when going forward. Admittedly he would be better starting than coming on as an "impact sub" as Steve Mclean seemingly liked to use him, but whenever I think of him all that I can picture in my head is us breaking down the wing only for him to pass it back to the half way line leaving us with 9 or 10 men behind the ball to beat again.He's good at retaining the ball and he has his moments of brilliance. But I don't think that he is anywhere near the levels of Ince and Weimann and I think that Russell is a better player (or at least a more positive player).Fair enough. I disagree with you but at least you explained your opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Slow, slow, quick quick slow.Sorry, thought you said 'formation dancing' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Mills Posted June 19, 2015 Author Share Posted June 19, 2015 Grant, Forsyth, Pearce, Shackell, Christie, Thorne, Hughes, Bryson, Ince, Weimann, MartinSubs: Carson, Buxton, Baird, Hendrick, Dawkins, Russell, Bent I personally think we just HAVE to integrate both Bent and Martin into the team. We can't afford for a 20 goal a season striker to be sat on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Mills Posted June 19, 2015 Author Share Posted June 19, 2015 Fair enough. I disagree with you but at least you explained your opinion.Why do you think he is a better player than our other options? I personally see wingers as being players that are there to be positive and make runs. Dawkins' strength is in his ball retention which is something I don't think is hugely important for a winger. Perhaps in the centre of the field yes, but we have plenty of players that can do that same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 CarsonNew Right back Keogh Shackell Forsyth Thorne HughesInce Weimann Russell Martinsubs: Grant,Baird, Albentosa, Bryson, Dawkins,Bent, Pearce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Agreed. Not good enough at this level. Yet you think that Shotton is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Yet you think that Shotton is?My opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Why do you think he is a better player than our other options? I personally see wingers as being players that are there to be positive and make runs. Dawkins' strength is in his ball retention which is something I don't think is hugely important for a winger. Perhaps in the centre of the field yes, but we have plenty of players that can do that same thing.I personally prefer Dawkins to Hendrick and Bryson because he is versatile and his ball retention is very good which is useful when we are under pressure because he is more likely to keep possession whereas I can see someone like Hendrick doing a stupid mistake and giving the ball away easily. Dawkins also provides the link from the defence to the attack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLACML Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Why do you think he is a better player than our other options? I personally see wingers as being players that are there to be positive and make runs. Dawkins' strength is in his ball retention which is something I don't think is hugely important for a winger. Perhaps in the centre of the field yes, but we have plenty of players that can do that same thing.My formation may not have been that clear. Russell and Weimann were the wingers, Dawkins at CAM.I think he's great at finding space, moves the ball well and quickly, and we've seen that he does have a final product. Such a beautiful footballer to watch too, he just glides out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 I think the issue with the whole of english football is summed up in this thread. Many on here seem to prefer physically strong players and grafters like Hendrick and Bryson and we don't seem to appreciate technically gifted footballers like Dawkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeadlySaul Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Most Villa fans seem to think that Weimann was wasted on the wing and that he is better suited to playing in the middle, so would love to see a 4-2-3-1 like this: GrantChristie Keogh Pearce Forsyth Thorne HughesInce Weimann Russell Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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