Duracell Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Keep hearing stuff about us "doing a Watford". Okay, we all know that loan signings have played a big part this season, but if anyone thinks there's any parallels between this brilliant bunch of lads and Udinese and Granada's combined reserves then I wonder if you really understand what's so good about this team. Watford may have had an excellent side which resulted in them finishing 3rd and being unlucky not to be promoted, but none of them were anywhere near as bothered as we were yesterday. I still don't think Watford froze in the play-off final last year, I think Palace just wanted it more. I'm not guaranteeing us automatic promotion next season or saying we won't get hammered on the opening day of the season as a hangover, but we will not be a mid table team next season and we will challenge again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 I think the other thing was the off the field upheaval they had. New manager, half of a new team etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 We have McClaren. They had Rumpelstiltskin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendly Fox Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Hey, look at it this way, you could do a Leicester.Last season we were knocked out by a last minute play off goal (albeit semi's) and it only made us stronger this season. Everyone knows you were hard done by yesterday but I'm sure you'll bounce back. We made no additions and look at us now. Quite likely if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-JW- Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 At the very worst, we will be back at Wembley this time next year imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North_Stand_Ram Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 For every Watford there's a Reading and a WBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-JW- Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 We beat Southampton on penalties seven years ago and look how good they are now. All we have to do is wait 7 years and we'll be a top 10 PL side. Who's with me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted May 25, 2014 Author Share Posted May 25, 2014 Hey, look at it this way, you could do a Leicester. Last season we were knocked out by a last minute play off goal (albeit semi's) and it only made us stronger this season. Everyone knows you were hard done by yesterday but I'm sure you'll bounce back. We made no additions and look at us now. Quite likely if you ask me. There we go! We're much more Leicester than Watford. We'll probably lose more of our key players than you did but still, we'll keep a lot of decent players who won't forget how to play football over the summer. Lots of teams do suffer hangovers from the play-offs, but that's usually because they've gambled on promotion and have to suffer the fall-out. We'll be okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posh Ram Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 At the very worst, we will be back at Wembley this time next year imo. Christ, after yesterday I almost want to say no thanks to Wembley. Don't ever want to feel like that again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeedsCityRam Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 I don't think there's anything we can learn from comparing our situation with Watford's. Their team was pretty much all loanees, we've just got 2 very influential loanees in our starting XI and a very good loan striker. Thorne will undoubtedly be the biggest loss but even he only played in the last 15 games. Wisdom is a good player but IMO replaceable. I'm entirely confident we won't lost the momentum we've built up from this season. Our young lads have another season under their belt & financially wise we should be in a good place what with the increased gates this season, the playoff final monies & increased season ticket sales for 14/15. My main worry is the expectation of the fans. We may start slowly - it oftens happens to losers of playoff finals. What absolutely MUST NOT happen is for folk to expect us to start the season like a train & then start moaning & getting at Steve Mc if we're only midtable by October/November. Its a long old season - we've got most of the squad & a very capable manager. Good things come to those who wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Christ, after yesterday I almost want to say no thanks to Wembley. Don't ever want to feel like that again. Have to take the rough with the smooth mate - it's a c**t of a place to lose at, but what a way to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetMeRangers Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Udinese Watford will struggle as long as they have owners running their as they do. Their system will not work, playing with loanees /testing bed for the Italian league. Your comparisson with Leic is uncanny. I would say you have a better manager (we benefited from Mac early doors and without him would never have been anywhere near the playoffs), a young squad based around British players. Very much hope you walk the division (I don tsee any teams that particualrly stand out bar maybe Wigan, perhaps bournemouth with the excellent Ernie Howe - ironic his team got promoted with Dyche at the helm). Mac will make sure your side learn from this and you should come out stronger for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posh Ram Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Have to take the rough with the smooth mate - it's a c**t of a place to lose at, but what a way to win. I guess you're right . But if we're at Wembley this time next year, we will have probably not improved on this season. It took a lot of points to get promoted this year but I don't see it being the same in 2014/15. We should be aiming for automatics, even winning the league. That's another reason I hope we're not at Wembley next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 I guess you're right . But if we're at Wembley this time next year, we will have probably not improved on this season. It took a lot of points to get promoted this year but I don't see it being the same in 2014/15. We should be aiming for automatics, even winning the league. That's another reason I hope we're not at Wembley next season. Agree - top two next season should definitely be the aim. If we end up in the playoffs again though, and get through to the final, I'll be booking my tickets at the earliest opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posh Ram Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Agree - top two next season should definitely be the aim. If we end up in the playoffs again though, and get through to the final, I'll be booking my tickets at the earliest opportunity. Me too. Despite the result, yesterday was an incredible atmosphere... and I would be so disappointed to miss a play-off final victory for any reason. I'd be even more nervous though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WFC4EVER Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 If you don't want to be like us: Don't lose your top striker (Vydra) and midfielder (Abdi - injury) Become complacent like Zola and some players did. Buy badly (no loans this time but the like of McGugan were average at best) I doubt any of the above will happen to you guys - I'd be surprised to see you guys not be in the top 6 again...or even be a Leicester. Actually a lot of the loan players from last season signed on but just simply didn't perform - mainly due to thinking it would be easy and not being prepared well enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I doubt McC will allow that type of mind set. We may have a slow start, however when it clicks back in to place I think we will go on a bery long unbeaten run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eustonstation Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 At the very worst, we will be back at Wembley this time next year imo. Dammit, that's another 12 hours of flying and $2,000 out of pocket. I'm hoping for automatic... although I'd probably make the same investment to celebrate at the clinching match! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodypecker Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 "Doing a Watford" used to be one of Tom Glick's catch-phrases a couple of years back, as he used the example of that club as an aspirational level for Derby on numerous occasions. I'm afraid much of Glick-speak about Derby's 'strategy' used to stick in my craw as contrived double-talk intended to deflect the Rams' lack of achievement during his tenure. Severe house-keeping was implemented but he had to try and give the football some momentum. He got to know my feelings about comparisons with Watford... At the iPro Forum last week, a fan queried whether we'd 'do a Watford' and Sam & JV were refreshingly surprised at the notion and rejected it with a string of positives that demonstrated the differences between the Hornets' predicament and their response to Wembley defeat, and Derby's situation. I think we can sustain the momentum - keep the faith! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thierry Ennui Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Look at Aresnal. The in-form team in the second half of 2012-13, then they took that momentum into this season and were top of the league until injuries hit. Essentially, what I'm saying is that Martin will get injured in January and we'll finish 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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