Ambitious Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Yeah, still think we'll finish 3rd and 4th. If they steal 3rd then I hope Brighton sneak in at 6th. Here's a scenario - say we've sealed first up in the bag before the last game of the season. And a win for Leeds would see them finish sixth, would you play a ridiculously weakened side to 'rest' players for the play-offs? Getting Leeds in the play-offs would be a meal ticket for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whoneedshuls Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Isn't it whoever finishes 4th in the playoffs normally wins the final? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoners Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Also to add, under McClaren we're averaging 2 points a game... which would leave us with 87 which is one point below the average of Champions total in this division, and is the same amount of points as the highest side that has finished 3rd. Well above the average it takes for promotion, but will it be enough? The top 5 in this league are far and away better than the rest, I can't remember the last time there was such a divide. All top 6 are in good form. Usually one or two always have a real drop in form hence leicester and palace last year. http://www.footballformguide.net/form/sky-bet-championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 The top 5 in this league are far and away better than the rest, I can't remember the last time there was such a divide. All top 6 are in good form. Usually one or two always have a real drop in form hence leicester and palace last year. http://www.footballformguide.net/form/sky-bet-championship I would guess at Burnley, just due to the difficulty of their away games. I can't see us, you or QPR losing too many points in fairness - but we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Looking at the fixtures, you've got to fancy Burnely to grab 2nd place. They have relatively easy looking away games and their six pointers are at home. Derby's away fixtures look tough. Reading, Boro, Ipswich, Leeds (despite the record), Burnley and even Blackpool (I predict they will have picked up abit by then) are tough. As good as we have been, we've only won once out of the last five away games and there still seems to be abit of a weakness there - especially at shipping goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC_17 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Isn't it whoever finishes 4th in the playoffs normally wins the final? we finished 3rd and went up, so did swansea, west ham and hull in recent years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Playoffs are an uttery lottery. The only advantage to finishing 3rd or 4th is the possible extra 30mins infront of your own fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Looking at the fixtures, you've got to fancy Burnely to grab 2nd place. They have relatively easy looking away games and their six pointers are at home. Derby's away fixtures look tough. Reading, Boro, Ipswich, Leeds (despite the record), Burnley and even Blackpool (I predict they will have picked up abit by then) are tough. As good as we have been, we've only won once out of the last five away games and there still seems to be abit of a weakness there - especially at shipping goals. If we get the same results that we did against them sides previously, Bournemouth (3) Millwall (3) Bolton (1) Forest (0) Charlton (3) Huddersfield (1) Barnsley (3) Watford (3) Wednesday (3) Burnley (0) Reading (0) Ipswich (1) Middlesbrough (3) Blackpool (3) Doncaster (3) and Leeds (3)... that's 33 points! We've got the easiest run in for me.. We're better than what we was when we played a lot of these sides too. Although, Ipswich, Yeovil. Brighton, Leicester and Blackburn, we've repeated our results, Wigan we did worse, QPR we did better.. so at the minute it's looking down this route - ish. Home games look very, very kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Some tough away games remaining but I can't see us losing any of the remaining home games. Looks like it's going to be tight either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoners Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Playoffs are an uttery lottery. The only advantage to finishing 3rd or 4th is the possible extra 30mins infront of your own fans. Play offs are not a lottery Ad is only used by fans as a safeguard if they don't win them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knowle Rohrer Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I went last night, brilliant second half performance and it was nice to see us be clinical for a change. Throughly deserved to win and it was good to see Majewski grasp his chance with both hands and impress. It is going to be one exciting run in but I do keep on fearing that we will experience a Davies slump as happened in the spring with us twice and also you. We'll see but we look good now and the next two league games against Leicester and Burnley will really show if we're up to the mark and can challenge for the top 2. Out of interest does part of you worry about going up. I know you would not be as bad as you were last time but it would be hard to see past Forest or Derby struggling next season. Once the novelty of Premier League football wears off and we are paying a fortune to see a struggling side that probably has in excess of a 50% chance of being relegated, it will not be enjoyable. Being a good Championship side is pretty enjoyable. Or am I just a miserable so and so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eezzeetiger Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Don't you think Fawaz might be a bit upset, having mentioned it in his speech on the OS the other day? He got lots of songs and cheers. He was more than happy to milk the applause and play to the crowd. Seems a great chairman. Hope it goes on for a long time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eezzeetiger Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I went as well, but didn't think we were brilliant at any point. We took our chances very well though. We clearly miss Lansbury and Vaughan. The Moose and Radi do not give us the same strength in midfield Halford at Right Back, with Jara available is just silly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knowle Rohrer Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I went as well, but didn't think we were brilliant at any point. We took our chances very well though. We clearly miss Lansbury and Vaughan. The Moose and Radi do not give us the same strength in midfield Halford at Right Back, with Jara available is just silly Jara is needed in midfield at the moment and Halford does a good job in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eezzeetiger Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Just had a quick look at the league table Can't believe we've only scored 8 goals less than your lot. Thought you'd passed 100 goals scored in December ? It's goal difference that counts, just ask the Derby fans... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam the Ram Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I went last night, brilliant second half performance and it was nice to see us be clinical for a change. Throughly deserved to win and it was good to see Majewski grasp his chance with both hands and impress. It is going to be one exciting run in but I do keep on fearing that we will experience a Davies slump as happened in the spring with us twice and also you. We'll see but we look good now and the next two league games against Leicester and Burnley will really show if we're up to the mark and can challenge for the top 2. Out of interest does part of you worry about going up. I know you would not be as bad as you were last time but it would be hard to see past Forest or Derby struggling next season. Once the novelty of Premier League football wears off and we are paying a fortune to see a struggling side that probably has in excess of a 50% chance of being relegated, it will not be enjoyable. Being a good Championship side is pretty enjoyable. Or am I just a miserable so and so? I worry that if we don't go up we'll lose the likes of Bryson, Hughes and of course all these loans we have. And what also worries me is if we were to get a big fee for Hughes, I doubt our board would invest a lot of that back into transfers and more Champ teams will end up spending quite big to get up, meaning we are the underdogs yet again However, the part about spending a fortune to watch next year .... 50% off season tickets if we go up which is a nice bonus for our fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knowle Rohrer Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I worry that if we don't go up we'll lose the likes of Bryson, Hughes and of course all these loans we have. And what also worries me is if we were to get a big fee for Hughes, I doubt our board would invest a lot of that back into transfers and more Champ teams will end up spending quite big to get up, meaning we are the underdogs yet again However, the part about spending a fortune to watch next year .... 50% off season tickets if we go up which is a nice bonus for our fans Signings are not McClaren's forte either based on his time at Forest and Middlesbrough. In all fairness at Forest he was not given the money he expected and we ended with panic buys like Derbyshire and Miller. At Middlesbrough he made some high profile mistakes as well at huge fees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam the Ram Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 It's goal difference that counts, just ask the Derby fans... Don't be silly Tiger .... we all know the league is based on these things: (In order of importance) Beating top 6 teams Beating teams in form Highest away following Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDCAR Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Was Doughty ever popular @ the CG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam the Ram Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Signings are not McClaren's forte either based on his time at Forest and Middlesbrough. In all fairness at Forest he was not given the money he expected and we ended with panic buys like Derbyshire and Miller. At Middlesbrough he made some high profile mistakes as well at huge fees. I prefer to look at his positive signings Mandzukic, Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink, Mark Viduka etc. And besides .... every signing he's made for us so far have been amazing (Including staff) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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