The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Just come into this late and not read through it all BUT are we suggesting our centre backs were to blame for the Leicester defeat? That they couldn't cope when the "big guns" came on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 One was a direct free kick from 30yds and the other imo was very lucky. The problem was we should have won the game by half time. We are discussing the wrong areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich3478 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I have forsyth down as the worst defender this season... Buxton Smith Freeman Keogh Forsyth. in that order.. Smtih and Buxton the only two averaging over a 6/10 This is all your opinion though, d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted September 26, 2013 Author Share Posted September 26, 2013 This is all your opinion though, d Well yeah, as I said - i've watched every game this season at least once, in some cases twice - like the leicester game I want to have another look at it, and I did the same at Yeovil. it's just a marked evaluation of the players performance, from doing good things, bad things - how much they got on the ball and significant input into the game. For instance in the millwall game, best player on the park was Will Hughes but Craig Bryson got the goals, and also played really well. His goals got him MOTM despite Hughes having a blinder! again, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodleyRam Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 One was a direct free kick from 30yds and the other imo was very lucky. The problem was we should have won the game by half time. We are discussing the wrong areas. Agree with that to an extent. I think we do lack leadership in the heart of defence though. I think our two cbs are okay but need competition. Based on our games so far it seems we struggle to put away chances when we're under pressure, i.e. At home and on tues night in a bigger game. Russell in particular seems to lose his compusure in front of goal, i think it's a confidence/pressure thing. We're not short of good chances just haven't been putting them away. It will come but i think we need to keep playing the way we are and try to be as clinical as we have been against milwall, brighton and yeovil in every game. On the subject of bucko, he's okay for this level, more consistant than keogh this season. Deserves more credit than he gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilkoRam Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Anyone else in full agreement that dropping our BEST centre back and replacing him with young right back, or a untested centre back to play alongside our currently very out of from other centre back a bit barmy?[/size][/font][/color] who gives this guy the time of day Absolute horsesh*t IMO I agree. To lay it on one player and for that player to be Bucko is nonsense. It's not about the individuals it's about the back four as a unit. If he could say that Keogh and someone else better complement each other and would be a more natural paring, then fair enough but to just say "oh it's Buxton, chuck a youngster on" is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/derbycounty/news/32929/? Earlier this season I wrote that one of the conditions for the Rams making the playoffs would be reducing goals conceded 61 last season to somewhere nearer 50. Now, 8 games into the season - a reasonable sample - we have already conceded 12 goals, meaning at this rate we are on target to let in 69 over a 46 game season. It is not quite time to panic, but management needs to recognize that with this defence we are going nowhere. Yet the goalkeeper and both fullbacks were changed during the summer for hopefully better players, or in the case of Brayford, the best available on our budget. So our only option now is to take a look at the centre back pairing. In defence, Keogh and Buxton are the survivors from last season. They started 26 league games together; I think all of Buxton's starts were at centre back, not right back. In those 26 games, the Rams conceded 38 goals, for an average of 1.46 goals per game. This would extend out to 67 goals over a 46 game season; right about where we are at so far this season. In the 20 games that Keogh was partnered by someone other than Buxton - O'Brien, O'Connor, Gjokaj, Freeman, even Brayford for a couple of games - the Rams conceded 23 goals, for an average of 1.15 goals per game. Over a 46 game season, that extends out to 53 goals. The 14 goals we could save in a season from not having Bucko at the back could make the difference between making the playoffs and getting the drop. I should add that in the four league games last season where we conceded three or more, Bucko was there each time. Football is a team game, and there are other factors in the Rams' situation. But one player who is not up to the job can make a real difference. I'm convinced that if the Rams are to live up to their potential, Bucko has to go. What are the options at centre back? I doubt that the club is going to spend big money bringing someone in, especially as we now have mounting problems with injured midfielders. If bringing someone in is not going to happen, then its time to give Freeman or Gjokaj a run alongside Keogh. It’s possible that there would be no real improvement with either of them; but we know there will be no great improvement if we keep Bucko. Ultimately it’s all down to the numbers, and for the Rams defence the numbers tell the story. ---------------------------- Anyone else in full agreement that dropping our BEST centre back and replacing him with young right back, or a untested centre back to play alongside our currently very out of from other centre back a bit barmy? who gives this guy the time of day Absolute horsesh*t IMO It's just a fans blog, no different from someone starting a thread on here. Don't get why it's a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted September 26, 2013 Author Share Posted September 26, 2013 It's just a fans blog, no different from someone starting a thread on here. Don't get why it's a big deal. Just popped up on newsnow, and rattled me. It will be widely viewed, and therefore I was annoyed especially when it was just pure rubbish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notts_ram Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 It will be widely viewed, and therefore I was annoyed especially when it was just pure rubbish! If you dissect it there are actually some valid points, not many, but some valid points so wouldnt say was pure rubbish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Just popped up on newsnow, and rattled me. It will be widely viewed, and therefore I was annoyed especially when it was just pure rubbish! I agree it's not very good. Anyone with eyes can see how poor Bambi on ice has been thus far this season. Bucko has done o.k, not great, but o.k. I have never read this blog before and don't think I will bother in future after reading that. Don't worry about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopRam Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I think Buxton has been far better than Keogh this season to many little mistakes from Keogh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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