sage Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 So Brayford, Robinson and Fielding have been sold, Naylor and Ball have gone on loan, O'Connor looks to be on his way, just Tyson, Bailey and Ledgzins to go, though I think we may keep Ledgzins. Incoming has been Russell, Grant, Forsyth, Martin, Eustace and Smith (loan). It's pure guesswork, but I would imagine even with O'Connor gone that although we would be around £750k up in terms of fees, we would be £5k a week above last years wage bill. That would suggest to me we won't bring anyone else in until Tyson has been sold or gone on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Or Will Hughes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted August 22, 2013 Author Share Posted August 22, 2013 Or Will Hughes Obviously that a game changer on a different scale. Not much difference in wages, but (hopefully) a substantial fee. This would still mean losing the fringe players is vital, as we would want to spend money on fees rather than wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Thats what I see, profit in sales but higher wage bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asanovic Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Obviously that a game changer on a different scale. Not much difference in wages, but (hopefully) a substantial fee. This would still mean losing the fringe players is vital, as we would want to spend money on fees rather than wages. Do you think we paid Martin and Forsyth's wages whilst on loan? I don't really know how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted August 22, 2013 Author Share Posted August 22, 2013 Do you think we paid Martin and Forsyth's wages whilst on loan? I don't really know how it works. We would have paid some or all of their wages. Bailey, Naylor, Tyson, Robinson and Ball all had loan spells out last year, so I guess with full or partial payments coming in, we probably made a small profit on loan wages last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Ram Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 I have been told that a meeting between Saul Deeney and Clough concluded that the promise NC made to Saul that he would be this year's no.2 Keeper once Fielding and Legzdins were sold was rescinded. Reason being that no-one wants to take Legzdins on a permanent deal at present so he is staying and Saul will be going out on Loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Who would want Saul Deeney on loan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardifframs Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Why loan? Somebody would surely sign him permanent? We did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Purely speculation mind, but would guess at. Eustace - Free - low range wages 2>4 Russell - 750k upto 1 million(with add ons) - mid range wages 4>6 Smith - Loan fee (around 200k seems reasonable) - low range wages 2>4 Martin - free - high range wages 6>8 Forsyth - 150k - mid range wages 4>6 Grant - free - high range wages 6>8 1million>1.5million(including all add ones) and average 30k a week. Fielding - 150k (with add ons) - mid range wages 4>6 Robinson - 150k - low range wages 2>4 Brayford - 1.5million upto 2million (with add ons) - Top range wages 8>10 Naylor - free - youth level wages .5>2 Ball - free - youth level wages .5>2 1.8million upto 2.3 million (with add ones) and average 19k a week. So, by pure guestimation - the wage bill at present will be higher than last season - unless we can shift Tyson who will be in top range wages, and another player which should equal it out. 11k a week higher over the year is approx 527000 - so, as I said pure guestimation from my point of view would be.. Expenditure - 3,560,000 Incoming - 3,288,000 Overall is -272,000. Which would explain at the lack of movement on our part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Ram Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Why loan? Somebody would surely sign him permanent? We did With respect the role of the Number 2 is simply to provide cover. Saul accepts that is all he is there to do where as Legzdins and Fielding rocked the boat last year every time one was dropped for the other. Fielding's ego was inflated due to the hype he received after his England Call Up when at Blackburn, with Legzdins not sure where he got his from. Fair enough last year he was very good but the stories I heard about him last year made me wonder where he got the ego from. Even during Pre-season he refused to play a game for the U21s at Matlock, a game most of those on the Transfer List played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted August 23, 2013 Author Share Posted August 23, 2013 I have heard similar things about Ledgzins being mardy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 With respect the role of the Number 2 is simply to provide cover. Saul accepts that is all he is there to do where as Legzdins and Fielding rocked the boat last year every time one was dropped for the other. Fielding's ego was inflated due to the hype he received after his England Call Up when at Blackburn, with Legzdins not sure where he got his from. Fair enough last year he was very good but the stories I heard about him last year made me wonder where he got the ego from. Even during Pre-season he refused to play a game for the U21s at Matlock, a game most of those on the Transfer List played. I think Saul knows Derby County is the only place where he will get a pro contract so he is keen to follow whatever line he has to do to get his wage. I also don't see why any overage player is allowed to play for the under-21s makes a mockery of the name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Hasn't he been unavailable on the few occasions we have needed him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich3478 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Gareth Roberts left as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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