Catch 23 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 To Play 451 away from home agianst a side who like to keep the ball had already put us in a bad place to start with playing 2 up front was vital and maybe 3 would have been right. But to play 3 upfront would have meant playing 3 in midfield, and against a midfield containing Jedinak, Bolasie, Dikacoi and Zaha we would have been destroyed. But I guess this is part of the beauty of football tactics, that every system is flawed in its own way. I agree with you on two points though. The second goal effectively killed our chances of getting a result stone dead. We came racing out of the blocks in the first ten minutes of the second half, and a goal our way would have changed everything. Also, we really do need Ward back. Anyone know when he's back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rams_Forever86 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 If we were actually a good side in this league when the fa cup comes we wouldnt be putting more than half of our first team in the 3rd round squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rams_Forever86 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 But to play 3 upfront would have meant playing 3 in midfield, and against a midfield containing Jedinak, Bolasie, Dikacoi and Zaha we would have been destroyed. But I guess this is part of the beauty of football tactics, that every system is flawed in its own way. I agree with you on two points though. The second goal effectively killed our chances of getting a result stone dead. We came racing out of the blocks in the first ten minutes of the second half, and a goal our way would have changed everything. Also, we really do need Ward back. Anyone know when he's back? zaha and bolasie were wingers not wide midfielders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
networker1884 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Theres a difference between being better and having more experience. Roberts does the basics.If he is retiring at the end of the season naturally hoganson would be first choice replacement should they not buy anyone.But he only has a year contract.Theres a difference still between u21 and first team how can clough seriously see that he is up to scratch if he dosent give him a chance. Just to add to that, experience isn't everything. If you learn from that experience you become a better player, and in many cases the captain. You could have 20 years experience but still not be as suitable a captain as someone who's 20. I believe that Roberts is very far from captain material. His experience hasn't developed him, and his age has only slowed him. Imo, he isn't good enough, and I would very much like to see Hoganson given the chance now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFCfranco Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Theres a difference between being better and having more experience. Roberts does the basics.If he is retiring at the end of the season naturally hoganson would be first choice replacement should they not buy anyone.But he only has a year contract.Theres a difference still between u21 and first team how can clough seriously see that he is up to scratch if he dosent give him a chance. If you ask most people they'd have roberts over hulk hoganson I'd only play at the end of the season if it doesn't matter and cup games. You could argue to have played freeman over robberts. But our robben seems to do fine against pacey players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Been a while since I moaned about Nigel so I've got a complaint. How long does it take to deal with a problem? How long do you stick by the starting 11 before you make changes? No other manager seems to leave things so late. We'll be getting pinned back, or a player will look off the pace, you look over to the bench and...... nothing. Joe Bloggs is having no effect on the game, look at the bench after an hour? Nothing. Derby have managed 2 shots, surely we'll try to inject some urgency? Nope. Not until the 80th minute when they've wrapped the game up. I'm not getting into who he brings on for who. Taking Sammon/Theo off for say, Jacobs will always be seen as lessening the attacking intent but sometimes it's capitalised on a weakness or its altered our avenues of attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
networker1884 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 If you ask most people they'd have roberts over hulk hoganson I'd only play at the end of the season if it doesn't matter and cup games. You could argue to have played freeman over robberts. But our robben seems to do fine against pacey players Hmm, I don't think so. I've seen pacey players run past him on more than one occasion this season. I've seen him get tricked so that he turns round 360 degrees and loses his player. But the main concern for me is his inability to keep the ball on the ground. Roberts has consistently played hoofball this season, whilst Brayford on the opposite side has found it to another player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFCfranco Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Hmm, I don't think so. I've seen pacey players run past him on more than one occasion this season. I've seen him get tricked so that he turns round 360 degrees and loses his player. But the main concern for me is his inability to keep the ball on the ground. Roberts has consistently played hoofball this season, whilst Brayford on the opposite side has found it to another player. Well he's pretty solid I think. I'd rather have him over hulk hoganson (I'm trying to make that a thing) if you were going to drop him I'd go with freeman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
networker1884 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Been a while since I moaned about Nigel so I've got a complaint. How long does it take to deal with a problem? How long do you stick by the starting 11 before you make changes? No other manager seems to leave things so late. We'll be getting pinned back, or a player will look off the pace, you look over to the bench and...... nothing. Joe Bloggs is having no effect on the game, look at the bench after an hour? Nothing. Derby have managed 2 shots, surely we'll try to inject some urgency? Nope. Not until the 80th minute when they've wrapped the game up. I'm not getting into who he brings on for who. Taking Sammon/Theo off for say, Jacobs will always be seen as lessening the attacking intent but sometimes it's capitalised on a weakness or its altered our avenues of attacks. It's okay mate, everybody seems to have had enough. I've never seen so many negative posts today, people who are pi55ed off that I wouldn't believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brammie Steve Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 A jolly song tonight pals! Palace: to the tune of “Unforgettable” So forgettable at Selhurst Park So forgettable Let's keep it Dark Crystal Palace they rang rings round us Scored three goals and hurtful things found us Taunts, boos and jeers Still ring in our ears. Let's forget it all And just move on, Though we feel so small what's done is done That's why Derby, it's incredible That a game so truly terrible Makes us hope that we'll forget it all Too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch 23 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 I think this would be Gareth Roberts's last season as a first team player. He will be 35 next year, and would be the granddad in an otherwise youthful side, but I can't see him being as effective in a year or two. Rumours are that we'll be making a swoop for the Hearts left back (and thus capitalising on their financial woes by taking a player off their wage bill), and I'd hope that in the second half of the season (particularly towards the end) we'd blood him in to the side and give them a go. Either them or Hoganson. I always thought Freeman was our left back for the future, but I'm reliably informed that he's a right back. Ho hum. Incidentally, whatever happened to Paul Dixon? He's at Huddersfield I think, is he pulling up many trees there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFCfranco Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Who is the hearts LB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch 23 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Danny Grainger. We were linked with him in the summer, and someone on here mentioned we were going to make a move for him in January. Or perhaps I shouldn't bother listening to randomers giving away transfer-related secrets on a message board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
networker1884 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Who is the hearts LB [url=http://lmgtfy.com/?q=hearth+left+back]http://lmgtfy.com/?q=hearts+left+back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFCfranco Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 [url=http://lmgtfy.com/?q=hearth+left+back]http://lmgtfy.com/?q=hearts+left+back Yeah... I'd click on that link. It would have been easier just to say who it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
networker1884 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Yeah... I'd click on that link. It would have been easier just to say who it was. Did you actually click on it though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFCfranco Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Did you actually click on it though? Yes. It came up with stuff about heart failure. A bad sign for that LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
networker1884 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Yes. It came up with stuff about heart failure. A bad sign for that LB. click on it again, i got it wrong the first time. aw yano what, that was a good joke wasted. WASTED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFCfranco Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Its not wasted if it wasn't funny in the first place... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Crystal Palace they rang rings round us Scored three goals and hurtful things found us What? Do i not like that The words disordered are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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