Shuff264 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 agreed! MODS Why do we never get a poll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFCfranco Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Why do we never get a poll? if I were a mod. There would be polls in every thread where it was necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuff264 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 if I were a mod. There would be polls in every thread where it was necessary. Even where they werent needed, just wack them in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodleyRam Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 No just proving a point. I know matey, just messin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Shackell off the ball Keogh on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddesdenRam Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 I agree Keogh is much better on the ball. Has a fantastic down the line ball than never seems to go out. Also his touch and passing ability is the best for a CB i have seen at Derby for quite a while. Thoughts of Barker and Addison come to mind, we thought theo was bad. Shackell always used to play hoofball into the completely wrong positions; instead of putting it into the channels he would hit a traverse pass long and not to mention the amount of times he would try the hollywood ball out to the RW with his left boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Tibbs Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Overall, Shackell still for me. I can take a few more hollywood balls (Keogh's hardly deck based) if you bring back a better defender. I like Keogh though, still has potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSheep Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Honestly I couldn't decide sooo if there is a third option Id like too take both :S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 I reckon keogh's farts would be worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Teale Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 I think that people are emphasizing that Keogh is better on the ball shows that the dont actually believe he is a better defender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddesdenRam Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Honestly I couldn't decide sooo if there is a third option Id like too take both :S Rumours will always circulate the Shackell sale. Was there changing room issues? Did we get a bigger fee than the reported 1.2 million? Did Clough secretly have a plan for Keogh and Shackell to play but was quelled by some external factor? Was Keogh a panic buy because Shackell was leaving? It would have been an excellent partnership, we will never know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 I think that people are emphasizing that Keogh is better on the ball shows that the dont actually believe he is a better defender Probably. Shacks Hollywood passes used to do my friggin head in. No better than an OB punt. But yeah, he was pretty aware of everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North_Stand_Ram Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 I've been told Shackells been poor for Burnley this season by many Burnley fans, although form has picked up over the last few months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddesdenRam Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 I think that people are emphasizing that Keogh is better on the ball shows that the dont actually believe he is a better defender In my opinion defending attributes put simply are: Heading, Standing Tackle, Sliding Tackle, Positioning, Speed and Leadership Shackell wins on Standing Tackle Sliding Tackle Positioning Leadership Keogh wins on Speed Heading I really like both players and felt genuinely sad when i saw this picture "http://nonaynever.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Jason-Shackell1" alt="Jason-Shackell1"> but what happened happened. I don't think our problems are Keogh we should be focusing on finding someone to go alongside him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuff264 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 In my opinion defending attributes put simply are: Heading, Standing Tackle, Sliding Tackle, Positioning, Speed and Leadership Shackell wins on Standing Tackle Sliding Tackle Positioning Leadership Keogh wins on Speed Heading I really like both players and felt genuinely sad when i saw this picture "http://nonaynever.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Jason-Shackell1" alt="Jason-Shackell1"> but what happened happened. I don't think our problems are Keogh we should be focusing on finding someone to go alongside him. I think Keogh is a better leader, I never saw Shackell talking to players especially the young uns except for when they conceded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddesdenRam Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 I think Keogh is a better leader, I never saw Shackell talking to players especially the young uns except for when they conceded. This was one of my points earlier. Shackell was able to play with Barker for a large amount. He had Brayford for like every game and Roberts. Keogh has had Freeman, Forsyth, Gjokak, Obrien etc. Not too sure how much this played a part mind and whether its worth looking into. While on the topic however I think Keogh's leadership might have been slightly forced; what i mean by this is that Shackell knew barker would come back in the season and step in as captain straight away. Maybe Shackell felt less of a need to lead, whereas Keogh knew when he came in everyone was expecting him to be captain for the whole season and felt inclined to do more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuff264 Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 This was one of my points earlier. Shackell was able to play with Barker for a large amount. He had Brayford for like every game and Roberts. Keogh has had Freeman, Forsyth, Gjokak, Obrien etc. Not too sure how much this played a part mind and whether its worth looking into. While on the topic however I think Keogh's leadership might have been slightly forced; what i mean by this is that Shackell knew barker would come back in the season and step in as captain straight away. Maybe Shackell felt less of a need to lead, whereas Keogh knew when he came in everyone was expecting him to be captain for the whole season and felt inclined to do more. I suppose but if you have the captains arm band your expected to lead, be it for one game, ten or one hundred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notts_ram Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Who gives a monkeys, Shackell left the club a year ago, fact. Move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Who gives a monkeys, Shackell left the club a year ago, fact. Move on. The man has a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFCfranco Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Shackell who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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