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I half remember an horrific stat after Waghorn left: Derby released 8 players on a free since 2018 who they signed for a fee with a combined loss of (around) 40 million quid Blackman, Johnson, butters, waggy, jozefzoon off the top of my head and that’s over 20 mill Shows we weren’t the smartest buyers, certainly pre Clowes

Behave

Getting Joe Wilkinson in as a free-kick specialist. Heard it yesterday at Moor Farm

Bring him home

Anyone know what the Peterborough players’ celebration was about for the third goal. Really incited the crowd and they definitely seemed like they had a bone to pick. Behaving like that has a way of biting you

He was utterly anonymous the few times I saw him play for Forest Green but hard to judge given they’re one of the worst teams I’ve ever seen 😂

Technically, I think Bird is one of the best players in the squad. He does seem to lack ambition though on the pitch. I think, with his ability, he’s never going to be far from getting really good numbers but it just keeps not happening. Reminds me of Hughes a bit.

Fair play to you. I don’t think it’s anything to do with Warne changing anything though. I genuinely think it’s just that 15 games or so was never going to be enough to judge the squad. I think they’re now much fitter and more accustomed to the style so the football is better. I also think we had some rotten luck/decisions in early season and that has started to turn. We’ve also got a lot of fit players- Bird, Hourihane, Thompson, Barks, Wilson are all arguably key players who missed chunks of our inconsistent start through injury I don’t doubt for a second we will have a poor run between now and May so I’m not going to be smug and say anyone is right or wrong- they might still finish 7th yet

I think there’s quite a few players in the squad who would be good enough in the championship plus a few younger ones who are nowhere near their ceiling (Bird, Sibs, Thomson, Wilson) I don’t think it’s a total rebuild. Probably would still need to sign potentially ten players though

I love how smug this thread has become 👏👏 let’s enjoy it now before going 9 without a win in Feb/March 😂

I remember playing Birmingham a few years ago and Jutz scored two. It led the commentator to remark that Jutz had scored 11 of his then 99 career goals against Derby and therefore over 10% were against us 😂

Apologies if this has been answered but is it televised?

I know what you mean but I doubt anyone’s gonna be desperate for Cashin because I don’t think any Prem club will be buying him with a view to him improving their first XI (yet)

Disappointed with the first team line up tonight. I appreciate it’s easy to criticise Warne and, if we’d been pasted with a team of kids, he’d have been criticised for not taking the competition seriously. I also know he has to keep squad players happy who might not be playing. However, I think it’s a bit silly that not 1 young talent started the game 🤷‍♂️

Horses for concourses, I suppose

Saying “I just prefer standing at a football match” is a real red flag for me. Sit down, my knees hurt

I think this is a part of it. I do wonder whether we should change what we consider success. It’s not like we’re ever going to win the Premier League. Highly unlikely we’ll ever finish top 10 in the top division ever again. Begs the question: what are we striving for? Maybe we should strive to be as good as possible with minimum 5 academy grads in each starting 11. If that ends up in the Prem, great. If we end up staying in League 1, so be it. Obviously this is completely hypothetical but I think it would be a novel interesting way for the club to operate

I meant in terms of that being the start of the academy really being used. It wasn’t until Rooney/Rosenior where we were giving 5-10 debuts a season. More out of necessity though, I suppose. It definitely shows that we should use it more that so many that we blooded very early have gone on to be key players here or elsewhere

It’s always been my biggest gripe with Warne. If we’re not giving the academy lads a chance in this league, we’re hardly likely to risk them against better sides in the championship Perhaps we’ve been spoilt the last few years with 5-10 academy players debuting every season. It started the Lampard season tbf when he gave Bogle and Bird a proper go.

This entire thread makes me laugh out loud 😂

Fair enough. I do actually think that the football hasn’t been that bad even before Saturday

Eh? Did you see the goals on Saturday? Penalty from being fouled from a cross and two long balls from the keeper headed on Hardly slide rule, eye of the needle stuff

Would love to see Weston et Al get a chance

I think what is happening is exactly what some sensible forum members have been saying for weeks- injury crisis over and we’ve started to get some luck and take chances and now, shock horror, we’re winning games I don’t doubt we’ll go on another bad run at some point this season which is why Warne says he never gets too up or down after a win/defeat

Any former anti warners been converted in recent games?