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Your first sentence fits Israel pretty good. The hostages would be those they have imprisoned without charge or charged with protesting the illegal occupation of their land of an Apartheid State. The Likud party and Netenyahu fit the terrorist description pretty well. They were elected in this "democracy". You know what happens without Hamas? Israeli occupation. What is Hamas? Well, tomorrow they're Palestinians who are digging their families out of rubble today. The Palestinians who have family members imprisoned for throwing stones as their homes are bulldozed. The Palestinians who were born into Hamas ran Gaza and have known only oppression by Israel. Hamas have blood on their hands. I've said throughout the thread that they need to be removed (or reformed maybe) into something Israel can make peace with. But they can not be destroyed because they're an ideology. A resistance to the Zionists who refer to lands by ancient name and encourage violence and intimidation to claim that land. You must destroy the Palestinians entirely. Or they must be given a reason to reject Hamas. In the last few months everybody has seen what it is that the Zionists are about. Sure, the scale of attacks on Palestinians has increased. But nothing new has happened. How many Palestinians died before October 7th in 2023? Nobody knows without googling it. This is not about hostages for Netenyahu. It's not about October 7th. And if he wanted to destroy Hamas then he wouldn't have propped them up. Why did he prop them up? Because he wanted to split Palestinian power. Create division. Why? Because he, like those in his party, want a "Greater Israel".

It hurts to even imagine. Never know what to say to people who lose loved ones. The sad face emoji doesn't seem right but it's the best we have when the only other thing I can think of is "sorry for your loss" but I've never liked saying or hearing that. In a RL situation it would be "call if you need a cuppa and a chat". Here we just have the thread. You'll have to make your own cuppa too.

Don't say that mate. I don't mind watching a race for 2nd but if the highlight of the season is going to be who's the best driver out of 2 'meh' drivers at pretty hopeless team... Oh god. Is it wrong though that I want Yuki to beat Danny Ric? I know DC is a nice fella but he's had so many free passes for being smiley that beating Tsunoda shouldn't land him a seat at RBR when there's guys who are actually deserving of a chance. Feels mean but he's had more than enough opportunities and too many excuses are provided for him.

I don't feel sorry for Horner but I doubt Daddy Verstappen is motivated by anger at some sleazy behaviour. Pretty low the way someone is going after him. He's such a cheerleader for Max I would have thought Geri was expecting the news story of Max/Horner affair to be the scandal coming out.

Very boring wasn't it? I'm not sure anyone should be happy except Verstappen.

Next week Israel will claim something else that we (governments, mainstream media) will take as the truth until proven a lie. Meanwhile we'll cast doubt on all Palestinian claims and gaslight anyone who dares flip it the other way.

Well Lando, Leclerc, Sainz, Norris and Hamilton felt they had more to give so that's not too depressing. Not hard to imagine a tighter constructors championship with RBR only having one driver. I bet they'll be tantrums if there's consistent podiums for the likes of Ferrari. So it's not all doom and gloom. I saw a comment that praised Alpine for showing solidarity with French farmers by sending tractors to compete.

Israel expressing it's right to self defence against starving Palestinians. Opening fire on crowds. Classic IDF banter.

I want to agree. But we have to accept self defence (Ukraine) is justified Problem is that when anybody declares war it's always for self defence, national security, regional interests etc. And even when it's opposed there's often enough support in the echo chambers to support preemptive strikes and "military operations". Look at the gaslighting on the protesters against the Iraq war. The other weekend approx 250,000 people marched in London. There were 12 arrests. Look how they're spoken about. Look how warmongers talk about these demonstrations being disruptive to peace and democracy When a tyrant convinces enough people that Kurds/Jews need to be eradicated then what do you do? Spectate? I do think wars can be justified. But it's too easy to blur the lines. Skirt around international laws. With a touch of provocation you can self defence yourself to having military bases across the globe.

When parents we know are desperate to use autism or ADHD to excuse their child's awful behaviour. In my head it would be something that I'd explore after I've put effort into parenting. Not before. It's hard to be understanding when one kid has pushed other kids off the bouncy castle all day while you occasionally mutter "oh George, don't do that please" while having your eyes glued to TikTok/Insta

The only thing the SNP did/said that was wrong was that they stormed off in a tantrum. More offended by not being able to vote on their own motion on their own day. It's understandable. But the issue was bigger and more desperate than procedure. They should have at least supported the labour amendment for the sake of Gazans. Hoyle apologised. Said what he did was wrong. Then pooped on them again. The SNP concluded that Israel is guilty of war crimes. Which they are. But then you've got people who are more angry at the SNP for being angry than they are about ethnic cleansing, war crimes and potentially genocide. They'll complain about the brightness of the sun if it avoids talking about the slaughter. It's something we see a lot of. Hypocrisy with the stance on Ukraine/Russia. The hunt for Antisemitism where it doesn't exist (there's plenty out there without using it as a shield to defend an abhorrent position) while blatant Islamophobia in the House (that's the second time this year) is given the airbrush treatment. Hoyle, of course, did it for the safety of MPs. Given all the ducking and weaving these lot have done. Given the position that the rest of the world is taking. Given the outrageous comments by MPs. I call a steaming pile of bs. Because I think it's more likely that he's falling in line with the eagerness from our politicians to offer political and military support for Israel. Which continues by the way. So let's skip the part where we pretend to be shocked at any such accusation. God forbid the UK officially call out Israel on war crimes. They're clearly not guilty....

Lindsay Hoyle apologised. Said he made a mistake. But clearly he didn't make a mistake. He's doubled down on it. The protection offered to Israel is disgusting. They can't even call out Islamophobia now when it's blatant but have been smearing everyone opposed to the mass murder as antisemtic. Still we send them weapons. We condemn Houthi attacks in shipping lanes. But we can't condemn Israel blocking aid trucks. The world is pretty much united in a ceasefire. The world has seen enough murdered Palestinians. But not America or Britain. They stand isolated in support of Israel. Calling Peace Protests "Hamas supporters". Crying about the chants of "From the River to the sea" while the Likud Party policy is the exact same. The Iraq war was shameful. This? This is complicity in ethnic cleansing and collective punishment. Perhaps genocide. That's what our politicians are about. Anybody who tries to muddy the waters with this "self defence" or "collateral damage" or any despicable gaslighting bs... You should be ashamed of yourselves.

Looks like GGG has retired. Good. Before somebody he would have whooped 5 years ago manages to outpoint him by being young and fresh.

I saw her whole CPAC speech. You have to admit she has a point The Radical Islamist Party is proving hugely popular with the Trans activists. It's quite frightening. You look at these Pro Hamas marches now and you've got all the Pride flags everywhere. Really grinds my gears. Left wing extremism has gone too far. The banks are in on it. The EU are pushing it. I always said it. Liz Truss was the right woman at the wrong time. When she comes again it will be when we need her. With Farage by her side. Assuming he doesn't become too left wing for her before then.

The line should be drawn just before Liz Truss steps up to a microphone? (Joking btw, let it all be heard)

That's me told!! I agree btw. 🤣

But imagine if she was your problem to make a decision on. What would you say? I'm in the conflicted as feckery camp.

To be honest it's not THAT bad if the fight for second best is competitive between 3 teams. Like last season we ignored Max after lap 2. If Perez flies around in second place and then it ends up a Mercedes only battle for third.... might be best to watch Last Of The Summer Wine on Sundays. It becomes the equivalent to the "Who will get that last Champions League spot!?!?!"

Well, I can't imagine politics in this country could sink any lower after tonight. Well I do hope Lindsay Hoyle keeps his job. It's clearly very important to him. Bravo Labour. The Israel Lobby will be very pleased. And our American overlords too. Everyone's a winner. Well, everyone that matters

Sorry

Don't see how you could. Taylor has the pedigree, he was always expected to reach the very top and dominate. Yet he comes off the back of a dodgy win over Catterall and defeat to Teofimo Lopez (thought he'd win that too). Going with what @CWC1983and @Henrycav81are saying about his off field behaviour... Like @JubbsI'm starting to lean the other way now. Should be fun though with the genuine tension between them. Do you dare stick money on Ngannou btw?

I'm definitely not going to say I hope it ends the same way because that would be pretty sick. So I'm not going to say it

Somebody who likes to engage in controversial debates. I think, Piers Morgan might be their leader. Katie Hopkins deputy. It's not great when you need Google to understand what's being said, is it. But at least I was smart enough to pick an indoor job in the UK. 😛

Probably more the other way if I give my thoughts. That Putin perhaps thought the backlash could be swallowed up by coverage/debate the Assange case. Because I've seen"Assange is the West's Navalny" type stuff. Or not. Coincidence then? I was genuinely asking. I think it was The Times and an interview with Tariq Ali I saw this morning had that kind of headline.

I apologise if this is in some of the links posted in the thread. The timing of this Navalny death with the Assange case? Not coincidence? Convenient cover for either side?