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Ah, of course Israel's response is to accuse the ICJ of being Antisemitic. The ICJ didn't stand for Jews during the Holocaust according to Ben Gvir. That is true. It didn't exist. Netenyahu said they'll continue to obey international law. Well, it's been decided that it's entirely plausible that Israel are committing genocide. In fact the court provided direct quotes and evidence to illustrate why they won't dismiss the case. So "continue" might be tricky. What's even trickier is continuing this war under the rulings. There is no wriggle room for killing, harming or even effecting Palestinians. So it's Hamas targets and Hamas targets only. Which you will then have to prove. "Hague Shmague" says Ben Gvir. The question is, what would Israel have to do before the apologists just stop? Where's the line? Instead of claiming everyone else is unreasonable, extreme or racist etc it would be good to just get a simple answer. What has to happen to Palestinians before Israel has gone beyond self defence? A typical response played out when Zarah Sultana asked the question last week. Either refuse to engage in such pettiness or attack the person. Never get answers.

I've seen a lot of anger that the ICJ haven't ordered a ceasefire but while Hamas threaten Israel and hold hostages then they couldn't do much more. But the facts are that Israel's conduct is wrong in the eyes of the UN, Amnesty Int, WHO, Save The Children, Doctors Without Borders, Red Cross, International Court of Justice among many other human rights organisations. No more "collateral damage" and "war is ugly". The ICJ dealt a killer blow to that narrative. The leaders of democracy, justice and freedom will now explain to you why you shouldn't listen to the laws that we all agreed would protect humanity.

Fury: Nobody who wears earrings will beat Tyson Fury Usyk: This is Cossack tradition. Not fashion. They defend my country for many years against our enemies and they never lose. Ever Fury: In your country it might mean you're a good fighting man. Where I'm from, it means you're a pussy with an earring Tickled me anyway

The response seems to be to imply ITV are spreading Hamas propaganda. At least this journalist wasn't accidently killed with the hundred odd others. Cameron will have to check with his lawyers if this is a war crime. In the mean time can all polemicists wait for the facts before jumping on their soapbox.

Easy way to save IDF lives. Go home. Take these https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/ben-gvir-says-10000-assault-rifles-purchased-for-civilian-security-teams/amp/ "security teams" home. Like, back behind the green line home.

everything gets blamed on Iran destabilising the region while America carries out the odd invasion and provides various factions with arms. Saudi Arabia is an excellent customer for American arms industry

Have you seen what Iran have done? They forced IDF forces to blow up a university in Gaza that the IDF themselves have been using as a base for months.

Back on the old soapbox as "British socialist hailing Hamas" and resident antagonist in a pointless thread split from the Ukraine thread, I thought I'd post this. "The quiet bit out loud" they call it. The right wing extremists we've been covering and apologising for. The regional conflict we seem to be heading towards would muddy the waters and I'm absolutely sure nobody wants that. Definitely not. No way.

States that don't have equal rights for their population. It's disgusting and I'm glad you've spoken against oppression. We're finally find common ground again. Imagine that, an anti war antagonist like me who speaks against illegal occupation and Apartheid. You'll be calling Israel and their weapons suppliers antagonists at this rate. If you do I'll storm out. Claim you can't be reasonable. It'll be fun

Good to have you back. Missed your context in these last few weeks.

Hey up! Welcome back to the thread those of you who stormed off claiming the moral high ground. Good to have you back. This is still "my thread" though and I'm still full of hate filled rants against Occupation, ethnic cleansing, war crimes, genocidal intent so I'm not sure it's safe to provide context around Israel's actions or pretend the only sponsor of terrorism in the region are two Muslim countries without being challenged. Good to see some mockery of "precision attacks" finally!! There's a lot of those in the region. Maybe someone could give us context around these ones? I'm one of those hate filled guys who condemns all attacks on civilians so I don't fancy it. If only there was some way escalation could have been avoided in the last few months.

When Cameron was asked if Gaza is Occupied he said he would have to seek legal advice before answering. When Sunak was asked if he's been advised by his lawyers if Israel are committing war crimes he said the government never reveal advice from lawyers. And that Britain has continuously called for Israel to show restraint. When asked if he agrees with Biden saying "indiscriminate bombing", Sunak said Hamas hides amongst the population. When Cameron was asked if Hamas will be destroyed he said no. When asked at what point will Britain vote for a ceasefire he said when Hamas have no capabilities to attack Israel from Gaza. When will we know that this is achieved? He doesn't answer. He simply says Hamas could end the conflict today by surrendering. But... er... surrendering what? Occupied Land? You need your lawyer again David. Or to backtrack and say Gaza isn't Occupied Palestinian Territory. "It's complex" they say. Well, not really. It's complex if your argument is for ethnic cleansing, Apartheid State terrorism, breaches of international law and opposing the UN, ICJ and Human Rights groups. I imagine that's tricky. Especially for unelected leaders. But to say stop the killing? Pretty easy. To negotiate with Hamas? Much easier than killing children I'd have thought. But hey, politicians don't have to face consequences. Might get a bit of a rollicking off Ian Hislop but give it 10 years then release a book. Go on I'm A Celeb.

Wheeeeey! I didn't put a single penny down on that fight. 🤣 😡 Sorry to the many fans of Callum and Liam Smith but they are soooo boring. They really don't react to anything. They don't change anything up. Who does Callum fight now? Does anybody care?

So we don't need to buy from Bird Cherry Crafts then, eh?

Smith v Beterbiev. Bit of an under the radar fight. I find Smith so boring. He's good but there's something about his style that makes his fights always a steady plodding pace. Tempo always seems flat. He let Canelo take control and I think he'll do the same again with Beterbiev. He really has all the qualities to trouble these guys but I expect he'll be unable to stop any elite fighter finding their rhythm. Round 7 stoppage I'm going for. Maybe a towel thrown in job.

I didn't mean to come across like that

"Excessive force"? It's a bit more than that. South Africa are doing a wonderful job right now of using Israeli government quotes compiled together to show exactly the mindset of IDF since day 1. It won't count for much I don't think but at the very least it will expose Israel to the public so there can be no more spreading of propaganda used by this Apartheid State. This isn't excessive force. This is ethnic cleansing. I wouldn't say the people of Gaza are being used by Hamas. This is another lie spread by Israel/America/Britain to give the impression Palestinians are being held hostage/human shields and so therefore the destruction of Hamas can only be a good thing. Like Biden said in 86. If Israel didn't exist then America would have to create one. If Hamas didn't exist then Israel would have to create another. Or one way or another a Hamas would form. Even if Israel succeed in their pretend mission then Hamas will be born again. Israel need Hamas. Again, this isn't a claim. This is something said by Netenyahu and Co both verbally and by action. It keeps him in power, it keeps them able to raid and build settlements. Support for Hamas was slipping. But there was still strong support for them. Because what happens without them? All Palestinians live in a liberal, democratic free state of Israel? The idea that Hamas brought Israel down upon Palestinians is what Israel would have us believe. Israel brought Israel down upon Palestinians. And they do it where Hamas has little to no power. Hamas might have support from the likes of Iran etc. but Palestinians do the fighting. And today there will be dozens more who will be willing to join groups like Hamas. Or an even more extreme group should Hamas actually be destroyed.

Sky etc are thinking thank God we can run with a story where we are under attack by those savages. They were begining to worry they might have to cover the ICCJ case where all the genocidal threats are being heard for the first time by anyone who hasn't looked past Sky News. Phew.

Always the same in winter. Dark nights people just leave it. I'm fed up of cleaning kids shoes! They must seek out the stuff. I noticed a few bins on a regular walk near me were taken away. It's not fun having to carry your poo bag for 2 miles but I'm not sure how people come to the conclusion that it's fine to throw it in a bush or hand it on a branch. I'm guessing they excuse themselves based on the lack of bins. Nothing like a nice wooded walk with dog poo hanging off trees

My cynical tone didn't come across?

Money went missing due to a "faulty system" provided by Fujitsu. 700 people took the fall for it. There was suicide, convictions of fraud, false accounting etc. Couple of decades later it turns out the system was the problem. The money just vanished. As money does

I just chased a black kid down the street with an axe and now the police are on my case. Nanny state, bro.

Watching Cameron and Co squirm under Kearns quite simple questions was hilarious. Welcome back Lord David. TV Gold

Again another voice of reason, this time on the Israeli side, when it would be understandable if he fully supported the IDF. I would pay to watch anybody from that racist Talk TV or Sunak or Blinken to sit down with this man and Wael El Dahdouh to explain how this "self defence" and "national security" works. It would be TV gold having someone like James Whale telling this man that he doesn't understand October 7th.

America have jokes though. "Palestinians will not be removed from the Gaza strip" - Blinken What? There will be nothing there? That's why we allow Israel to continue, no? At the point there's not a chance Palestinians can hope to live the joyous free life they had in Gaza before you will order Israel to stop. Collect humanity points and then say Palestinians are free to go to Areas A, B and C but D, E and F are uninhabitable. Within a decade Areas D, E and F will have Jewish settlers on. It's so obvious. As it was obvious when America said to Israel that they need to be more controlled with their war. 2 days later 200 Palestinians were killed in one morning. Oh, and this was just as they sold Israel more unguided missiles. "Dumb bombs" Terrorists eh? They hate our way of life and seek to destroy it. Kill civilians. Attack our freedoms. It's a good job we aren't like them. Smotrich doesn't even acknowledge Jordan's sovereignty