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18 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said:

I don’t think you quite see the flaws in your point ?

I think we'll just agree to disagree.?

40 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said:

But if we signed him he would get my support, like every other player but the point is I think it would be a bad signing, 2 completely different things. Are you suggesting we don’t debate potential signings on here ?

....and you didn't answer my question!?

In normal times I wouldn't disagree with you as much. In the current climate, and where dcfc find themselves, I think more than ever, we should be getting behind them from the off - including players that are training with us and therefore the most realistic ones we'll sign

1 minute ago, Jimbo Ram said:

But if we signed him he would get my support, like every other player but the point is I think it would be a bad signing, 2 completely different things. Are you suggesting we don’t debate potential signings on here ?

Not at all....just not writing someone off before they've kicked a ball!

58 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said:

I think you are confusing realistic and pragmatic comments on future signings with not supporting the club, 2 different things as far as I am concerned. As things stand you won’t convince me that signing Morrison will be a good signing, his record speaks for itself and I think people should be able to express their views on things like this on a forum like this. The same goes for expressing views on things that are going on off the pitch. But come a Saturday afternoon, after some great chat, a big cheese roll and 4 pre match pints in the Brunswick, me and my lad will be cheering the team on and getting 100% behind them whoever is wearing the shirt, including Ravel ??

I agree that Morrison's record isn't great so far...but do you not agree that if we all got behind him and welcomed him with open arms and a positive attitude, there's a better chance he could do better if he does sign??? 

For the record, I wholeheartedly agree with your four pints and a cheese roll (although we're Derby and surely it should be cheese cob!) before a game!?

As I said in my original post, I'm not saying we shouldn't call a spade a spade. As in, if we've not played well, we discuss not playing well. What I'm saying is that we should try and have that 'we're all in this together' mentality.

I think the only way the poisoned dwarf got us performing as a team was the 'us against them' mentality he instilled in the team. I think that as a club, including the fans, if we could approach this season in the same way, we may well do a lot better than what most of us expect.  Imagine the youngsters viewing social media and seeing positivity?

They'd certainly line up for the next game with a lot more confidence and raring to go and give their all. 

Compare that to them reading a post from from some entitled fan slating them. ....sometimes for their performance but sometimes before they've even kicked a ball!

I spend a lot of time reading these pages but don't often contribute much so bear with me!

One thing I think we would all agree on is that the club is in a mess and we were very lucky to survive last season. I don't think there's anyone that thinks this season will be any easier. 

The EFL in my opinion clearly have an agenda to make this season as difficult as possible for Derby. We are certainly not shopping in the same stores that we used to, in terms of player recruitment and this can be seen by the out of contract players currently training with us.

Now this is where I think we as fans can make a difference. I am becoming more and more frustrated when I read negative comments, especially about players who haven't even kicked a ball yet. For example....

Jagielka was an established premier League defender and with some younger legs around him, COULD become a quality signing.

Ravel Morrison has bags of ability and MAY have matured. The highlight reels certainly show there is a player that has an awful lot to offer if his head's in the right place.

Tom Lawrence has definitely been inconsistent. He has also had a drink problem, lost his mum and suffered personal issues not to mention Joiner Gate! BUT....he has bags of ability and giving him the captaincy could just be the kick up the bum he needs. 

These examples could easily be turned from possible positives to negatives.

However I can tell you one thing that is absolutely guaranteed .....and that is that we have the best possible chance of success If we get fully behind the team, remain positive and come together against those trying to knock us down such as the EFL, some other clubs, managers and chairmen.

I'm sick to death of reading negative comments from some who seem to think that we're entitled to success or think it's fine to boo etc as they've 'paid their money '. 

We've been in the second flight for a long time now and in my opinion never closer to dropping down another level.

So would you rather be positive and effectively become the 12th Man or be negative and add to the problem? ...and by the way I don't mean moaning that we've not played well. That's part of football and being a supporter. I mean almost personal attacks on players, management and chairman.

Be interested to hear people's views but really feel that if we can create some positivity we may just scrape by this season and give us a chance to move on again in a year's time. ...waffle over!

Rams TV cutting out every few seconds. Was fine half hour ago. Anyone else experiencing the same??