DCFC Else Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 I have never wanted Derby to sack Clough because i dont him for having his hands tied but over the last two years alot of fans are really annoyed at the team. alot of negative feelings around the club recently. personally I think its to soon for Bennet ( I have no dought he will be a great player ) just not at this time in his life. The team needs time to gel. it will be a good season just not the start. IT WILL GET BETTER........... I hope 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ph34r' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':ph34r:' /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 This is the first time in a long time I have thought this about a Derby team.. I have confidence in the team. Just not the manager. Yes he has made good signings, Sammon, Coutts, Jacobs, Bryson.. etc etc, but how he a] man manages these players (Maguire, and what emerged with Theo tonight raised an eyebrow or two) and b] manages these players on the pitch A poor Bolton team we could have quite easily beaten, beat us because of a very poor decision to take Sammon off in place of Will Hughes, who for a 17yr old looked out of his depth tonight against the 6" 2' brick outhouse that is Zat Knight. (no fault of his own), leaving Tyson up on his own. The same thing happened against Wet Spam away last season. Playing some nice football going 1-0 up, then resorting to hoofball. Which against a classic Allardyce team failed spectacularly. Lost 2-1. Yet again, Clough shows an alarming lack of a credible plan B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorksopRam Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Badge man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyram Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Apparantly Sammon signalled that he wanted to come off 5 mins before he was - maybe he picked up a knock or something? On the whole though, very frustrating to see the team sit back (just for a change 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':rolleyes:' /> ) and have the pressure piled on the defenders again. Every time I looked over at Clough he was jumping about like a scalded cat but overall, really, we were carp. On a better note, the Derby fans singing kept me entertained 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':D' /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
networker1884 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Aw, I thought this was going to be a thread for moaning. Disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Aw, I thought this was going to be a thread for moaning. Disappointing. Hope I didn't disappoint 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':P' /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 I admit, I was annoyed last night. Reason behind it is my passion for us to do well. Feel so guilty now 'http://www.dcfcfans.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wacko' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':wacko:' /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFCfranco Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 for me the watford game is important familiar opposition and depending on the result and performance and the tactical decisions made will show how we will do for the next few months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 This is the first time in a long time I have thought this about a Derby team.. I have confidence in the team. Just not the manager. Yes he has made good signings, Sammon, Coutts, Jacobs, Bryson.. etc etc, but how he a] man manages these players (Maguire, and what emerged with Theo tonight raised an eyebrow or two) and b] manages these players on the pitch A poor Bolton team we could have quite easily beaten, beat us because of a very poor decision to take Sammon off in place of Will Hughes, who for a 17yr old looked out of his depth tonight against the 6" 2' brick outhouse that is Zat Knight. (no fault of his own), leaving Tyson up on his own. The same thing happened against Wet Spam away last season. Playing some nice football going 1-0 up, then resorting to hoofball. Which against a classic Allardyce team failed spectacularly. Lost 2-1. Yet again, Clough shows an alarming lack of a credible plan B. A poor Bolton team we could have quite easily beaten Are you saying its was a poor team, or they looked poor in comparison to us at times? Bolton went down by a point and some goal difference last year and to be honest look promotion favourites on paper. Let's take a look at the side we faced: Bogdan - 24 year old Hungarian International keeper Mears - We should know Mears from his time here. He's a good player, even if he didn't want to be here. Another one who had injury troubles last season Mills - A very highly rated central defender who last year moved to Leicester for a fee rumoured to be of the order of £5 mil Knight - Experienced Premier League defender Ricketts - An experienced fullback with international and Premier League experience Lee - A very good player, despite only being 24 and missing most of last season through injury he's already got 40 Korean (ROK) Caps to his name and to be honest I don't think he'd be with them now if he'd played a full season last year M. Davies - Midfielder with plenty of Premier League experience Andrews - An experienced player in midfield who looked very good in this division on loan with Ipswich last season Eagles - Another good midfielder, another with plenty of experience in the Premier League and at this level Sordell - Young striker who has scored goals at this level K. Davies - A veteran of over 400 Premier League games That's a pretty impressive lineup, and we apparently did well against them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFCfranco Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 they looked poor in comparison to us at times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramexpat Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 to soon for threads like this ,, we have been relegated by a relegated team with alot of good players in there team ,, wait until we lose to the likes of Millwall and Forest then we can judge the boys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramexpat Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 and for the record , we wont lose to the likes of millwall or forest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Imagine this forum if we lose to the gumps? oUZyZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFCfranco Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Imagine this forum if we lose to the gumps? oUZyZ this may sound stupid but who are the gumps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 this may sound stupid but who are the gumps? http://www.jonathanrosenbaum.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/forrestgump-feather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFCfranco Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 oh i see that is very clever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Are you saying its was a poor team, or they looked poor in comparison to us at times? Bolton went down by a point and some goal difference last year and to be honest look promotion favourites on paper. Let's take a look at the side we faced: Bogdan - 24 year old Hungarian International keeper Mears - We should know Mears from his time here. He's a good player, even if he didn't want to be here. Another one who had injury troubles last season Mills - A very highly rated central defender who last year moved to Leicester for a fee rumoured to be of the order of £5 mil Knight - Experienced Premier League defender Ricketts - An experienced fullback with international and Premier League experience Lee - A very good player, despite only being 24 and missing most of last season through injury he's already got 40 Korean (ROK) Caps to his name and to be honest I don't think he'd be with them now if he'd played a full season last year M. Davies - Midfielder with plenty of Premier League experience Andrews - An experienced player in midfield who looked very good in this division on loan with Ipswich last season Eagles - Another good midfielder, another with plenty of experience in the Premier League and at this level Sordell - Young striker who has scored goals at this level K. Davies - A veteran of over 400 Premier League games That's a pretty impressive lineup, and we apparently did well against them. Poor performance from a decent team. Maybe I was expecting too much of a team that's just come down from the Prem, but their most common tactic consisted of: Get it to Bogdan Bogdan hoofs it to Kavies Kavies wins the header. Ad infinitum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Poor performance from a decent team. Maybe I was expecting too much of a team that's just come down from the Prem, but their most common tactic consisted of: Get it to Bogdan Bogdan hoofs it to Kavies Kavies wins the header. Ad infinitum. It does put our position into perspective. Interestingly, of all our players, I'm fairly sure that only Conor Sammon has played Premier League football. Of the entire squad only Roberts, Keogh, Coutts, Tyson, Sammon, O'Connor, Ward and Robinson (8 players, I think...) had played at this level before playing for us, although arguably Bryson had as well in the SPL, but I don't really feel like getting into a debate about the level of the SPL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Like I said in my first post, confidence in the team, just in the tactics employed by Clough. Its all good playing Will Hughes, but matching him against Zat Knight.. really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseram Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Derby did ok last night for 3/4 of the game, in what was one of the most quite / unenthusiastic grounds I have ever been on. The idea would be to keep much the same if Sammon was injured. We needed presence / strength / character - poor you Hughes was never the man to provide. In saying that I think Bennett - even at his age - is one for a battle and should have come on instead - earlier. Easy to criticise Clough for poor subs - may not have had a choice. I do feel he has a good collection of players - Coutts / O'connor / Sammon look the part. Jacobs looked ok against Ssausagehorpe. One thing he needs to factor in is that Tyson cannot last 90 mins ...... Dissappointing last night - but the beer was cheap - thanks to a mate who supports Bolton ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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