uttoxram75 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Thought I'd have a look round this dusty little basement area for a change. So, who's driving the fastest car round in circles this year then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 There isn't really a fastest car this year - it depends on the track and midseason rule changes Alonso has been most consistent so is winning the championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Hamilton on pole in Singapore, Maldonado 2nd, Vettel 3rd, Button 4th, Alonso 5th, di Resta 6th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFCfranco Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 what about the HRTs that what everyone really cares about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Thought I'd have a look round this dusty little basement area for a change. So, who's driving the fastest car round in circles this year then? There isn't one. Best driver has been Alonso in one that's certainly not the most competitive, and he's top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFCfranco Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 *coughs* karthikayen *coughs* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Vettel wins in Singapore, Button 2nd, Alonso 3rd, di Resta 4th. Hamilton and Maldondo both retire due to techincal issues. Alonso 194 points, Vettel 165 points, Raikkonen 149 points, Hamilton 142 points, Webber 133 points, Button 119 points with 6 races to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramLAD Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Vettell was pretty good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Vettel on pole in Suzuka, Webber 2nd, Button 3rd but drops to 8th due to gearbox pen but still ahead of Hamilton who finished 9th, Alonso 6th on the grid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Vettel wins in Suzuka, Massa 2nd, Kobayashi 3rd, Button 4th, Hamiton 5th. Alonso retires after first lap puncture. Championship: Alonso 194, Vettel 190, Raikkonen 157, Hamilton, 152, Webber 134, Button 131. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsilks Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Vettel wins in Suzuka, Massa 2nd, Kobayashi 3rd, Button 4th, Hamiton 5th. Alonso retires after first lap puncture. Championship: Alonso 194, Vettel 190, Raikkonen 157, Hamilton, 152, Webber 134, Button 131. Delighted for him. Good race I thought. Makes for an exciting finish to the season but you have to fancy Vettel quite heavily now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Vettel wins in Korea, Webber 2nd, Alonso 3rd, Hamiton 10th, Button out after first lap crash with Kobayashi. Points: Vettel 215, Alonso 209, Raikkonen 167, Hamilton 153, Webber 152. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Vettels title now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SillyBilly Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Vettel is too good when he hits the front and finds himself in clean air. I'm pleased for Massa to find a bit of form, seems to have a new lease of life, reckon he'd have given Alonso something to worry about had circumstances been different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Can't see past Vettel now, but Alonso has been the champion driver this year for me. I'm not really a fan of him, but wow, to get that dog of a car anywhere near a title challenge is an astonishing achievment. Massa's been no great shakes this year but his form demonstrates how bad the car is. Usually, a car that is leading the championship, like Alonso's was, is good enough for the top 5 driven by any half-decent driver on the grid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Alonso mister consistent The old Ferrari head honcho in charge of the FIA Rule changes hampering Red Bulls mid season form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Alonso mister consistent The old Ferrari head honcho in charge of the FIA Rule changes hampering Red Bulls mid season form Jean Todt has shown no where near the favour to Ferrari that was once seen. Todt has little if anything to do with specific regulation changes. Todt is actually very rarely seen at Grand Prix these days. The FIA is responsible for the organisation of all motor racing series worldwide, and F1 is not its main concern. You're far more likely to see Todt at a World Sportscar, World Rally, or World GT race these days and he takes his job in motorsport seriously - too seriously to waste time favouring one team in one category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Vettel to Ferrari in 2014? If it does happen it will be interesting to see how he does v Alonso. Ferrari will retain Felipe Massa next season in what is planned to be a stop-gap deal before the arrival of Sebastian Vettel. Ferrari sources say they already have a deal in place with double world champion Vettel, with an option for the 25-year-old to join them in 2014. But Red Bull team boss Christian Horner insists Vettel will not leave. He told BBC Sport: "Sebastian Vettel, without a shadow of doubt, will be part of the Red Bull Racing team in 2014." Vettel's potential move to Ferrari has been sanctioned by Fernando Alonso, their number one driver. The Spaniard, himself a double world champion, has a say in the identity of his team-mate and vetoed the idea of 2008 world champion Lewis Hamilton joining Ferrari earlier this year. Alonso, 31, won the world title in 2005 and 2006 with Renault but has not finished higher than second with Ferrari. He currently trails Vettel in the world championship by six points. Should Vettel move to Ferrari, the team's line-up would undoubtedly be the strongest in F1 - but with potential for friction. It is notoriously hard for teams to accommodate two drivers with championship aspirations. Vettel and Red Bull have both denied the driver has any arrangements in place with Ferrari. Red Bull insist the 25-year-old, who won the title in 2010 and 2011, is under contract until the end of 2014. However, Red Bull adviser Dr Helmut Marko - the right-hand man of company boss Dietrich Mateschitz - has already said the contract contains performance clauses and Red Bull could not make Vettel stay if he wanted to leave. Hamilton has recently signed a three-year deal to join Mercedes, Alonso is under contract to Ferrari until the end of 2016, while Jenson Button is under contract to McLaren until the end of 2014. Massa's future had been in doubt during the summer after a shaky start to the year, but Ferrari were determined to retain him as long as he finished the season strongly. The Brazilian, 31, followed up a second-place finish in Japan - his first podium for two years - with another strong race in Korea at the weekend, qualifying sixth and finishing fourth - 6.2 seconds behind Alonso. Vettel's team-mate, Mark Webber, is on a one-year deal until the end of 2013 and could well retire at the end of next season ahead of the introduction of new chassis and engine regulations in 2014. Massa is expected to be confirmed in the Ferrari seat for 2013, his eighth consecutive season with the team, in a matter of days. Team boss Stefano Domenicali said of Massa after the Korean race on Sunday: "Very good, I'm very happy. "He did an excellent race and an excellent qualifying. But I have to say he's [been] doing an excellent job since a couple of races, so this is really very promising for the end of the season. "And if I want to anticipate the next question that I'm sure someone will ask, very soon you will know what will be our position in that respect. "For sure, he's understanding now better the car, he's understanding better the tyres. We believe that he's a very, very strong driver, there's no doubt. Otherwise we would already have taken a different decision." Ferrari president Luca Cordero di Montezemolo said he wanted to avoid a problem with rivalries, regardless of who was driving: "2014 is still to come but I don't want to have two roosters in the same henhouse, rather two drivers who race for Ferrari and not for themselves. "I don't want problems and rivalries, which we didn't have between Schumacher and Irvine, between Schumacher and Barrichello, between Alonso and Massa or Massa and Schumi or Massa and Raikkonen." http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/19941541 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Looks like this deal is pretty certain to happen. So many reliable sources and making very strong links now and the comments made from Red Bull and Ferrari are classic driver-market type quotes which hints that this deal is very likely. Vettel must be after a new challenge, and fair play to him. Red Bull have the best design team on the grid, and Ferrari have struggled a lot in this department. Vettel could stay with RB as long as he wants, I'm sure, but why not test yourself against Alonso and all the pressure that comes with Ferrari? Hope no one makes any comparisons with Schumacher's move to Ferrari. Hamilton's move to Merc is the equivalent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Hamilton on pole in Abu Dhabi, Webber 2nd, Vettel 3rd, Maldonado 4th, Alonso 7th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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