Perky1106 Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 ********. These are just grapes so sour that they've turned to vinegar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramesses Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Getting things back on track....... The reason Barnsley cashed in is that they are hardly flush at the moment. Other legal issues are at hand too, which anyone associated with the club, especially at board level will know! I wouldn't read anything in to the comment, I don't doubt that it has been made but it tends to be one of the throw away comments made to passify fans as to why a club has just sold one of it's best players. Look at the saga that unfolded with KC, in the end it left many fans with the opinion that he wanted to go anyway as a deal was on the table for him to stay. The reality was that the offer to him wasn't made soon enough, so his agent did what he is employed to do. Obviously once Celtic had come sniffing he was going to go, I suspect that the Board wanted to cash in all along but had to make a public show of trying to retain him, then they could say we matched the offer and it wasn't down to wages. Barnsley, like several other NPC clubs (half a dozen at least) don't have two shillings to rub together and they needed to cash in on their most valuable asset. The harsh reality of where football is at I'm affraid, something that the younger generation won't have experienced in the mega TV deal world that has existed for the last 20 odd years. Reality check time is here, so expect lots of similar smoke-screening comments from Boards of skint clubs. Not heard that theory before. I’m wondering where your suspicions come from? My own view was that the club did try to hold on to him. However, the club acted the tough negotiators and, with 20:20 hindsight, should have taken more of a gamble on his future fitness and offered him a contract earlier than they did. Maybe at worst more of a negotiation cock up than a conspiracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramesses Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 I put this to you: When we were getting beat week in week out, do you think we would still be in this league if Savage hadn't been there with his banter to get people up for games? At least he remained positive when a lot of our players looked totally dejected. Maybe his legs were gone and wages to high, but he never shirked his responsibilities. QPR away comes to mind, displays like that build belief in a team. Roberts just probably had a grudge over the national side politics. Nicely put…without Robbie (Gypsy) Savage, Stephen (Looney Tunes) Bywater, and Shaun (Only Average) Barker I think we might have been relegated in 09-10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Did Savage do anything of note during that season? I'm struggling to remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansea ram Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Who is liked by everyone they work with? Roberts probably held some sort of grudge due to Savage being from a different Welsh village? They can be very territorial the welsh you know! ;-) , To bloody right we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Did Savage do anything of note during that season? I'm struggling to remember. Apparently the furthering of his media ego counts as boosting team morale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curb Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 I put this to you: When we were getting beat week in week out, do you think we would still be in this league if Savage hadn't been there with his banter to get people up for games? At least he remained positive when a lot of our players looked totally dejected. Maybe his legs were gone and wages to high, but he never shirked his responsibilities. QPR away comes to mind, displays like that build belief in a team. Roberts just probably had a grudge over the national side politics. Strange one, we were getting beat every week, his legs had gone and his wages too high, but it's good that he didn't get depressed about it, and treated it all as a big joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Did Savage do anything of note during that season? I'm struggling to remember. Yes, he got lots of us women on his side so LEAVE HIM ALONE, or else I'll have to sort you lot out !!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Yes, he got lots of us women on his side so LEAVE HIM ALONE, or else I'll have to sort you lot out !!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: Val, you have a lot to learn on here don't you. You can't say things like that. Ask Vicky, she's always saying things with double meanings. Trouble is, she probably means it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bingy Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Not heard that theory before. I’m wondering where your suspicions come from? My own view was that the club did try to hold on to him. However, the club acted the tough negotiators and, with 20:20 hindsight, should have taken more of a gamble on his future fitness and offered him a contract earlier than they did. Maybe at worst more of a negotiation cock up than a conspiracy. Hindsight.... we could have offered both Commons and Porter extensions and then everyone would be up in arms about Porter. As stated earlier hindsight is 20:20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perky1106 Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 I put this to you: When we were getting beat week in week out, do you think we would still be in this league if Savage hadn't been there with his banter to get people up for games? At least he remained positive when a lot of our players looked totally dejected. Maybe his legs were gone and wages to high, but he never shirked his responsibilities. QPR away comes to mind, displays like that build belief in a team. Roberts just probably had a grudge over the national side politics. Meh. I still think he cared far more about putting himself on a pedestal ready to begin his media career than playing for Derby County. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramesses Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Did Savage do anything of note during that season? I'm struggling to remember. I thought he did. That season he was one of few players who played most of the matches. He was the captain of a squad completely f’cked by injuries and on the pitch tried to hold together a series of poor teams who were, more often than not, strangers to each other. I thought he gave pretty much everything he had that season and didn’t hide. You may dislike Robbie Savage for any number of reasons - but he did that in 09-10. As I said, without him Barker and Bywater I think we would have been relegated that season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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