davenportram Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/News-Football-league-chairman-admits-club-ownership-difficult-as-part-of-new-Dispatches-programme-article771604.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter Football League chairman Greg Clarke has admitted his organisation finds it "difficult" to have certainty over who ultimately owns their member clubs. Clarke's admission is contained as part of a Dispatches programme which airs at 8pm on Channel 4 tomorrow night. An undercover team working for the programme posed as a consortium of Indian businessmen interested in buying an English club. Dispatches say they were offered the chance to invest in one Football League club by a group of intermediaries, and the programme makers claim that when their consortium expressed an interest in buying a second club - in breach of Football Association regulations - the intermediaries offered to set up a front organisation to circumvent those rules. Clarke was interviewed as part of the programme and said: "We are a simple alliance of 72 football clubs who largely lose money. We don't have hundreds of thousands, let alone millions, to get to the bottom of these complicated organisation structures." Asked if he is confident that he knows who the true owners are of every club in the Football League, he added: "No I'm not. There's a process of validation that lets the Football League know who the owners are. Who the owners of the owners are gets more difficult. And who the owners of the owners of the owners are gets even more difficult." League rules state that "except with the written consent of the Board a person, or any associate of that person, who is interested in a club cannot at the same time be interested in another club". A person is deemed to be "interested" in a club if they hold or deal in shares of a club; is a member of a club; is involved in any capacity whatsoever in the management or administration of a club; has any power whatsoever to influence the financial, commercial or business affairs or the management or administration of a club or has lent or gifted money to or guaranteed the debts or obligations of a club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 You been sat on bog reading t'mirror all day youth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted July 17, 2011 Author Share Posted July 17, 2011 Nah, Mirror football on twitter means I haven't got to bother buying it or reading it anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p.shilton Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Nah, Mirror football on twitter means I haven't got to bother buying it or reading it anymore well don't bother with the online or the sausageter either- horrible rag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Love the title Dav. Here's some more suggestions for future threads..... Bears admit pooing in the woods. Pope admits to being a catholic Red Elvis admits to a pathetic attempt at a wind up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted July 18, 2011 Author Share Posted July 18, 2011 Tonight's programme about a company offering to set up takeovers of football clubs, and appearing to help people have a stake in more than one club. We were mentioned as one if the clubs that were a potential takeover target. We have heard of a failed attempt to sell the club, in the martinovic story broken by Ramblur. Also I found a company on Companies House called ABU Derby County Ltd, which was set up last year. Coincidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 erm isn't there a thread on this Mr Mod? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted July 18, 2011 Author Share Posted July 18, 2011 erm isn't there a thread on this Mr Mod? There's a thread about the League saying they don't know who the owners of clubs are. But we were named in the programme- though that made it relevant to RamsTalk. My bad if I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 I'm sure you're right. We'll just edit it out to make it look like you are right if not. Nobody will notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted July 18, 2011 Author Share Posted July 18, 2011 I'll just merge the threads and hope no-one noticed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curb Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Abu Dhabi County Someones having a giraffe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted July 18, 2011 Author Share Posted July 18, 2011 Abu Dhabi County Someones having a giraffe It's a real company, registered in Newcastle under Lyme http://tapatalk.com/mu/c1238425-96c5-9c82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curb Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 It's a real company, registered in Newcastle under Lyme http://tapatalk.com/mu/c1238425-96c5-9c82 I wasn't doubting the info, just that it sounds like a joke name, like Sillius Soddus, or Biggus Dickus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted July 18, 2011 Author Share Posted July 18, 2011 I wasn't doubting the info, just that it sounds like a joke name, like Sillius Soddus, or Biggus Dickus. Ooooh I see what you mean now........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mice_elf Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 There's nowt sinister about this ABU Derby County company. The registered address is occupied by a chartered accountant specialising in Contractor & Consultant tax solutions. He will have set this company up for use by a private contractor, hence the 'joke' name. http://www.dsonline.co.uk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramblur Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 It's a real company, registered in Newcastle under Lyme http://tapatalk.com/mu/c1238425-96c5-9c82 There are 2 documents lodged at CH,but unfortunately I don't have a Visa to pay the £2. The first document will include a certificate of incorporation/statement of officers/memorandum of association. Second will be a statement of capital. If this is in any way connected with us,then I seem to remember Glick responding to Martinovich's claims about us looking to sell by saying something like it had him scratching his head.He said this pre Palace-wasn't this around the time this company was set up (memory's not great on this). Still worth checking out in spite of last post.Just the first document would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsall_Ram Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Bottom line is, would you rather have them ru(i)n the club or these Americans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramblur Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Tonight's programme about a company offering to set up takeovers of football clubs, and appearing to help people have a stake in more than one club. We were mentioned as one if the clubs that were a potential takeover target. We have heard of a failed attempt to sell the club, in the martinovic story broken by Ramblur. Also I found a company on Companies House called ABU Derby County Ltd, which was set up last year. Coincidence? Unfortunately I missed the programme,and living outside UK won't be able to catch on iplayer. In fairness,we might be seen as a potential takeover target without any encouragement from our owners (in other words it would be jumping the gun to suggest that our owners were touting us for sale). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 We're a great catch. Look at the Stadium (we own it) look at the fans (we have lots) Look at the potential (erm, leave it with me) I think next season we could be in the hands of new owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramblur Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 We're a great catch. Look at the Stadium (we own it) look at the fans (we have lots) Look at the potential (erm, leave it with me) I think next season we could be in the hands of new owners. Thankfully,nobody can buy or sell our love for Derby County. I make no apologies for putting up the following link and would advise all to turn down (or better,off) volume before clicking on same:- http://homepage.eircom.net/~nobyrne/Chief.htm The first time I read this (years ago) I came to the uncomfortable realisation that I'm a pure savage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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