TheDeadlySaul Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Average manager who did his job at our club and should have been sacked 3 years earlier. Better managers have got teams promoted on smaller budgets than Clough, he was nothing special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramblur Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, TheDeadlySaul said: Average manager who did his job at our club and should have been sacked 3 years earlier. Better managers have got teams promoted on smaller budgets than Clough, he was nothing special. 'Better' managers don't seem to have got us promoted on far bigger budgets than Clough. I remember there were once suggestions that Big Mick would be the answer.Look what's happened to Ipswich since they started cutting back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeadlySaul Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, ramblur said: 'Better' managers don't seem to have got us promoted on far bigger budgets than Clough. I remember there were once suggestions that Big Mick would be the answer.Look what's happened to Ipswich since they started cutting back. because we spent our money awfully, my point still stands that managers with similar budgets as Clough had have got teams challenging and even got promotion at times. He really did nothing special at our club and I never will get the praise he constantly gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthram Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 12 minutes ago, TheDeadlySaul said: Average manager who did his job at our club and should have been sacked 3 years earlier. Better managers have got teams promoted on smaller budgets than Clough, he was nothing special. The Daily Mirror earlier this week stated that Nigel should get manager of the season for keeping Burton up on the smallest budget in the championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeadlySaul Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 1 minute ago, plymouthram said: The Daily Mirror earlier this week stated that Nigel should get manager of the season for keeping Burton up on the smallest budget in the championship We're not talking about his time at Burton though, we're talking about Derby County. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 9 minutes ago, plymouthram said: The Daily Mirror earlier this week stated that Nigel should get manager of the season for keeping Burton up on the smallest budget in the championship Great. And they'll have that to look forward to season after season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramblur Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 8 minutes ago, TheDeadlySaul said: because we spent our money awfully, my point still stands that managers with similar budgets as Clough had have got teams challenging and even got promotion at times. He really did nothing special at our club and I never will get the praise he constantly gets. Show me all the managers and show me all the budgets.I'll warn you that years ago Glick said that we were going to model ourselves on Burnley (although I think the team kept changing). When I looked at Burnley for the year in question I found that directors' loans had supplemented turnover and allowed them to run a wage bill that they wouldn't otherwise have been able to maintain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeadlySaul Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, ramblur said: Show me all the managers and show me all the budgets.I'll warn you that years ago Glick said that we were going to model ourselves on Burnley (although I think the team kept changing). When I looked at Burnley for the year in question I found that directors' loans had supplemented turnover and allowed them to run a wage bill that they wouldn't otherwise have been able to maintain. Ipswich 14/15, Burnley 13/14 and Brighton 13/14 all reached the playoffs on budgets hardly any different than Clough ever had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramblur Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 17 minutes ago, TheDeadlySaul said: Ipswich 14/15, Burnley 13/14 and Brighton 13/14 all reached the playoffs on budgets hardly any different than Clough ever had. Now show me their budgets and the comparative budgets Clough had,which you must surely know in order to make the statement you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 1 minute ago, ramblur said: Now show me their budgets and the comparative budgets Clough had,which you must surely know in order to make the statement you have. Don't give a monkey's about budgets, it's what's on the pitch that counts - and fair or unfair - Clough hasn't got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barnsley ram Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 23 minutes ago, TheDeadlySaul said: Ipswich 14/15, Burnley 13/14 and Brighton 13/14 all reached the playoffs on budgets hardly any different than Clough ever had. dont think thats correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeadlySaul Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, ramblur said: Now show me their budgets and the comparative budgets Clough had,which you must surely know in order to make the statement you have. Ipswich - £135,000 Brighton - £0 Burnley - £0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeadlySaul Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 1 minute ago, barnsley ram said: dont think thats correct This was their budgets in those seasons: Ipswich - £135,000 Brighton - £0 Burnley - £0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 I'll pop back when you've reached page 50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barnsley ram Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, TheDeadlySaul said: This was their budgets in those seasons: Ipswich - £135,000 Brighton - £0 Burnley - £0 ha ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeadlySaul Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 11 minutes ago, barnsley ram said: ha ha what Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramblur Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 16 minutes ago, TheDeadlySaul said: Ipswich - £135,000 Brighton - £0 Burnley - £0 Won't even bother looking at the others,but your Burnley £0 is obviously a code for total wages (excluding promotion bonuses) of £15.458m (very similar to the previous year's figure),with incoming transfers just under £5m and outgoing transfers just under £2m,so yeah,just like Nigel had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronnieronalde Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 7 hours ago, Derby_EnglandLoyal said: You know the answer. I do, of course. But just in case anyone else has forgotten. Can we confirm it was Dean Moxey? ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Just now, ronnieronalde said: I do, of course. But just in case anyone else has forgotten. Can we confirm it was Dean Moxey? ;-) Yes that's correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramblur Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 58 minutes ago, TheDeadlySaul said: Ipswich 14/15, Burnley 13/14 and Brighton 13/14 all reached the playoffs on budgets hardly any different than Clough ever had. Ipswich did well to reach the play offs finishing 16th (on an overall wage budget of nearly £16m) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.